10 lies games tell us about women

[Nuvendil]

Farsala said:

Nuvendil said:

@generic-user-1

Well the plate armor thing isn't really true. Plate isn't as heavy as you would think. 33-55 pounds. Wearers remained agile and could jump even. And plate armor that is well made balances the weight over your whole body so it's not like you are carrying 33-55 pounds but rather that you weight 33 to 55 pounds more. Just saying

From Wikipedia: A complete suit of plate armour made from well-tempered steel would weigh around 15–25 kg(33-55 pounds).[2] The wearer remained highly agile and could jump, run and otherwise move freely as the weight of the armor was spread evenly throughout the body. The armour was articulated and covered a man's entire body completely from neck to toe. In the 15th and 16th centuries, large bodies of men-at-arms numbering thousands or even more than ten thousand men (as many as 60% of an army) were fighting on foot wearing full plate next to archers and crossbowmen. This was commonly seen in the Western European armies especially of France and England during the Hundred Years War, the Wars of the Roses or the Italian Wars.

So women having to wear next to nothing because they can't wear plate is dumb. That point is true :P

In full atire a woman would be very rare. And including weapon and shield women were not only the rarest thing to see but even if it were true they  would not be able to keep fighting as an average man does.

 

Just saying a fully equipped woman would likely be double her weight. Back then Men and women were shorter and not as healthy.

 

It is likely they did not wear any plate in actual battles (maybe in joust, duel or as commander)

That has more to do with the rarity of professional female combatants.  I was simply saying that they are more than physically capable with training.  And plate armor runs into an issue when you bring in the posibility the woman in question has large breasts.  Plate isn't flexible so if the armor has to come out too much it will obstruct movement. 

generic-user-1 said:

Nuvendil said:

@generic-user-1

Well the plate armor thing isn't really true. Plate isn't as heavy as you would think. 33-55 pounds. Wearers remained agile and could jump even. And plate armor that is well made balances the weight over your whole body so it's not like you are carrying 33-55 pounds but rather that you weight 33 to 55 pounds more. Just saying

From Wikipedia: A complete suit of plate armour made from well-tempered steel would weigh around 15–25 kg(33-55 pounds).[2] The wearer remained highly agile and could jump, run and otherwise move freely as the weight of the armor was spread evenly throughout the body. The armour was articulated and covered a man's entire body completely from neck to toe. In the 15th and 16th centuries, large bodies of men-at-arms numbering thousands or even more than ten thousand men (as many as 60% of an army) were fighting on foot wearing full plate next to archers and crossbowmen. This was commonly seen in the Western European armies especially of France and England during the Hundred Years War, the Wars of the Roses or the Italian Wars.

So women having to wear next to nothing because they can't wear plate is dumb. That point is true :P

knights armor is chainmail for me. thats 15kg just the body. add  2,5 kg for head and 2,5kgfor arms and your are at 20kg+ helmet+ weapon+ shield+heavy clothes below the armor. thats 30kg min, hard to fight with this as a small 50kg women.  and it will not help you if a 100kg men hits you with a sword or axe anyway.

Chainmail faded out for exactly that reason dude.  It weighed way too much and didn't distribute weight worth anything.  You were carrying a ton of weight just on your shoulders.  Again, from Wikipedia:

By the 14th century, plate armour was commonly used to supplement mail. Eventually mail was supplanted by plate for the most part as it provided greater protection against windlass crossbows, bludgeoning weapons, and lance charges. However, mail was still widely used by many soldiers as well as brigandines and padded jacks. These three types of armour made up the bulk of the equipment used by soldiers with mail being the most expensive. It was sometimes more expensive than plate armour.^[18]

Mail was heavier, more expensive, and less effective than full plate armor so there was no reason to have your all important knights running around in it.  So your whole point is kinda moot, depending on the time period of the game.  Assuming it isn't the early middle ages even knights aren't going to be primarily wearing mail.  Many won't be wearing any mail. 

Also, armor weight is going to decrease as the size of the wearer decreases.  A woman is several inches shorter than a man = all articles of armor weigh less.  Further, you can't look at an average woman and ask if she could wear knight's armor when it wasn't even average men who were knights.  Male knights underwent extensive training to be good at what they did, so would a woman.

I'm not saying men and women are equal in strength; it would take an exceptional woman to keep up.  But to say that female characters should be clad it two steal bra cups and some skin tight leather when they go into battle (which some games still seem to insist on) is just crazy talk.  They would be more than physically capable to wear partial plate, full plate, brigandine, scale mail, etc.