Look at how many Americans truly love Donald Trump!

[Normchacho]

Jimbo1337 said:

Normchacho said:

Besides the fact that he's a cantankerous asshole who will more than likely do huge harm to our relationship with any country he meets with? I really don't have time to go over everything, so I'll just do one.

Lets go with his wall between the U.S. and Mexico.

There are several really glaring issues with building a wall to stop illegal immigration. They include,

1. The illegal immigrant population on the U.S. has actually been dropping since 2007. Going from 12.2 million, down to 11.3 million in 2014.

2. Only about half of illegal immigrants who enter the United States each year are Mexican. Many of them are Caribean, or Asian.

3. Economists don't actually agree on the effects of illegal immigration, some say it's bad for the economy, other say it's good.

4. A single mile or single layer fence currently costs an average of 3.9 million dollars. So you'd be looking at a project in the tens of billions of dollars (Which Trump plans to make Mexico pay for...somehow) to partialy solve a problem that is getting better on it's own and we aren't even really sure how bad of a problem it is.

1.) First off, that makes absolutely no sense and I would love for you to provide the source where you got this info from so I can rip that source apart.  There are about 400,000 people crossing the border illegaly each year and this information is coming from Obama himself. So yes, illegal immigration is an issue and has been for a long time.

2.) How does this make Trump a bad person?  You just simply stated who is coming across the border...

3.) So because people don't agree, Trump is a bad person?  Please tell me who these economists are and the source so yet again I can rip that source apart.  I would just like for you to give me just one reason why illegal immigrants are better for this country as opposed to those same people coming over legally.

4.)  So because you don't understand how Trump, who is worth 10 billion dollars, would make Mexico build the wall, he is therefore a bad presidential candidate? Let me guess, Obama is a wonderful person for giving 150 billion dollars to Iran who is saying "Death to America, death to Israel".

@bold - I can't even take you seriously when you say things are "getting better" and "aren't even really sure" in the same sentence.

Lets get something straight here. I'm not saying that those points make him a bad person, I'm saying that the border wall is a bad idea.

1. It's true that roughly 400,000 people enter the U.S. illegally each year, but that's not a net number. Since 2007 more people have been going into Mexico from the United States.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/24/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/flow-of-illegal-immigration-slows-as-us-mexico-border-dynamics-evolve/2015/05/27/c5caf02c-006b-11e5-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html

2. This is important because it means that building the border wall will at best stop about half of the people crossing into the U.S. illegally.

3. That's not what I said, I didn't say it was better for the economy than legal immigration. I said some economists believe having them in the U.S. is better than not having them in the U.S.

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/203984-illegal-immigrants-benefit-the-us-economy

4. First off, lets get something straight. Trump is a liar. After his claim that he was worth more than 10 billion dollars, Business Insider took at look at his assets and found that he's really worth about 2.9 billion dollars. Anyways, it's both very unlikely that he could get Mexico to spend nearly 3% of it's entire budget on a wall for the United States, and a bad idea to even ask them to do it. The single largest factor in the slow of illegal immigration is the improvement in Mexicos economy. Hurting that now would only make things worse.

That's not even talking about the cost of Trumps plan to deport all of the illegal immigrants either, which is estimated to cost roughly 140 billion dollars.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/donald-trump-immigration-cost-20150818

Oh, and I assume you're talking about the $55 billion in Irans own assets that would theoretically become unfrozen once the deal is concluded. I say theoretically, of course, because much of that money is already tied up in other place. Meaning Iran wouldn't actually get that money.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/treasury-iran-150-billion-nuclear-deal_55b8dc41e4b0224d88348e1c

You do realize that though those are in the same sentence, they pertain to different aspects of the same topic. The first (getting better) is talking about the size of the problem (how many people are entering the U.S. illegally), the second part (aren't even really sure) is in relation to how severe the problem is (what effect illegal immigration has on the U.S. economy). That shouldn't have been that difficult to grasp.