Do Next-Gen Games Give Us Next-Gen Gameplay?

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timmah said:

Rock_on_2008 said:

timmah said:

Rock_on_2008 said:
No current consoles do not provide a next generation game play experience.
BTW: Wii motion control is not innovative. The PC mouse uses motion control. point and click

I hope you're kidding. Seriously, this is one of the most clueless statements I have seen in a while. Comparing the PC Mouse to the Wii-mote is asenine and rediculous. The mouse senses movement in a 2-d space, somewhat similar to an analog thumbstick. The Wii Remote senses movement in a 2-d space (with the IR, similar point & click to the mouse), but it goes much further than that. It senses movement in a 3-d space, angle, g-force, etc, to produce a gaming experience never before available on any platform. This is innovative by every definition of the word. You comparison is not thought out, reasoned in the post, or reflecting reality in any way, and is pure trolling.

 Thank you for your opinion. To me there is motion control in PC Mouse.

 

Yes, there is some aspects of motion control in a mouse. The IR function of the Wii remote correlates perfectly with the fucntion of the mouse. My point is, the Wii-Remote does MUCH more, and has the ability to create a very different playing experience compared to either the mouse or the traditional console control scheme.

Directly comparing the mouse to the wii remote is an overly simplistic comparison and ignores the features of the wii remote that actually make it innovative.

I know some features of the Wii-remote have been tried in other niche markets (there are motion sensing games in arcades, for example), but Nintendo bringing this to the mass market when all the other consolse stuck to the same formula of standard controls + increased processing makes them the innovator in their field. You don't have to like them, but the fact that they stand out compared to the other consoles is undeniable. You can dislike the innovative steps they have taken, but IMO, there's really no denying that they have been innovative when compared to the other consoles.

Edit: BTW, I like the other consoles. I really enjoy traditional gameplay, and I appreciate graphics. I plan on either getting a better video card or a PS3 so I can expeirence both the Wii's innovative gameplay, and the kickass graphics offered by the alternatives, I want the best of both worlds.

Just a minor nitpick, timmah, that strengthens your argument:

 The Wii Remote actually doesn't correlate with a mouse with its IR.  Because of the 2 (well, 4) LEDs in the sensor bar, software is able to use some pretty basic trigonometry to get 3-D information from the Wii remote.  Okami does this, I'm pretty sure I remember MP3 doing it, and I think some other games probably do as well.  Devs can get 3-D info from the Wiimote, which is way more than a mouse (as they exist now) will ever be able to do.