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the-pi-guy said:
fielding88 said:


Actually, I think he understood the post perfectly well. The problem in this thread so far is the extreme disconnected arguments between what the OP article claims and is titled in comparison to what has since been argued throughout the thread. The goalposts have been shifted from a doubling in revenue from piracy to merely saying that piracy affects sales in some theoretical way. Nobody in this thread has ever argued against the latter, but again, the goalposts are shifting from the original ideas in the article.

The other poster was making a comment, that to some extent piracy costs something.  Maybe it's not the 80 billion in the OP, but even if it's 10 million$ thats still impacting the industry.  That's the point he was making.  

The poster I was responding to, seemed to be thinking that that poster was saying that a small number of people were responsible.  Which is completely different than what he meant. 

Which, in the context of THIS article, is irrelevant.  10 Million is a far cry from 74.1 billion.  Fielding88 is spot on, in his assessment of my response.  My initial comments in this thread were that no actual link had ever been proven.  That does not mean it doesn't happen, hasn't happened, will never happen.  It just means, nobody's been able to do so in a believable fashion (and stand up to scrutiny), the reason why?  They'd have to interview every pirate, or at least enough of a sample size to make any kind of educated guess.

I can only speak from my own checkered past, in this regard, as can probably the vast majority of responders in this thread.  The basic facts are, when I was a kid and partook in such things, the option was either pirate, or don't play the game.  Period.  There was no alternative.  However, that's anecdotal, and obviously cannot be used as a blanket statement (much like the claim of 74.1 billion loss to the industry).

Ya'll can alter the argument as much as you want, but in sticking to the OP, it's a dumb and unlikely to be proven claim, by this company.