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Mike321 on 18 August 2015
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MTZehvor said:
Mike321 said:

Again you fail to understand how Adam and Dane orders affect the way Samus carries herself in the mission, of course Dane could easily say "There are two anti air craft turrets protecting the generator. Take them down now." just like Adam does, and the other way around, Adam could make suggestions and say "Samus, Ridley is to strong for your current arsenal, maybe you should try a different weapon" but he doesn't because he doesn't respects Samus as Dane does and He should. The notion is the same, a joint mission but with two completely different characters at the lead of the mission, one that respects Samus and one that doesn't. Another point, what's the main fail in other m? Samus character desing, no way in hell should Samus take the orders and commands Adam tells her. In prime 3 Dane knows Samus won't obey every single order but in Other M her character was so changed that she suddenly takes every single order and she acts how Adam wants her to act, unlike prime 3 were she is told what to do but she can do it anyway she wants, again, because Dane respects Samus and Adam doesn't, and in Other M she suddenly obeys orders and acts how she is told to act, not how she wants.

 

And please, are you actually telling me Samus interacts more with the galactic federation in other m than in prime 3? Without counting Adam and Anthony you only see the other dumb troops once or twice and then they become COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. If we are talking about interaction with irrelevant troops, then she has way more interaction in prime 3 as I can just visit random troops and talk to them at any point of the game. And the troops in prime 3 helped WAY MORE than Adam, Anthony and the other idiots. Remember the WHOLE FEDERATION, NOT JUST THE TROOPS SAMUS HAS TO PROTEC, INVADED the space pirates homeworld and they did A LOT MORE than Adam, Anthony and the others COMBINED because they actually HELPED SAMUS IN AN IMPORTANT MISSION, unlike the useless characters in other m. My point is in prime 3 not only does Samus interacts way more often with the galactic federation, THEY ARE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT TO SAMUS DURING THE WHOLE GAME TO THE POINT THAT THEY HELPED HER TAKE DOWN THE SPACE PIRATES. In othe m not only are ALL THE CHARACTERS IRRELEVANT, THEY NEVER HELP SAMUS AT ALL, AND IF NINTENDO RESPECTED SAMUS A LITTLE BIT MORE SHE WOULDN'T NEED ADAM AND COMPANY AT ALL AS SHE ALONE COULD COMPLETELY DESTROY THE BOTTLE. 

And last, Nintendo made the prime series non-canon (intentionally or not) the moment they decided to support this game full of horrible plot holes, a terrible story and BY FAR the worst portray of Samus character ever.

The operative word is he "could" say that, but he doesn't. Until he does give a direct command to do so, it doesn't qualify.

And no, I'm not telling you that Samus interacts with the GF more in Other M. What I'm telling you is that Samus cooperates and acts towards the same goal with Federation troopers (i.e. the very definition of a joint mission) far more in Other M than in Corruption. Even without direct cooperation, Samus' objectives in Other M are basically the exact same as the soldiers; search the ship for suvivors. In Corruption, the only time they are the same are the "protect the troopers" mission. She destroys the seeds without any cooperation from soldiers, she boards the Valhalla and takes control of the Leviathan without any cooperation from soldiers, and she invades Phaaze and destroys Dark Samus without any direct cooperation from Federation soldiers. The objectives she's trying to accomplish are always different than the ones the Federation soldiers are pursuing; i.e. not a joint mission.

The last point about making the Prime series non canon would make the entire series non-canon as well. I agree Other M's portrayal of Samus is terrible, but as far as canoncity is concerned, it's just horrible writing and nothing more.

Last reply because you clearly don't get my point on Dane and Adam. Both Samus and the federation cooperate together to Invade and take down the pirates homeworld (joint mission by your definition) that alone is MORE cooperation on a BIGGER scale and FAR MORE IMPORTANT that the cooperation Samus had with Adam and crew (which was none because as I said Adam and company are COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT). So even if you don't want to recognize the whole prime 3 game as a joint mission, you can't deny that the invasion to the pirate homeworld (not just samus protecting the troops) is a joint mission, as both the federation and samus fight together to take them down, and that mission alone is more important than whatever interaction you think Samus had with Adam and the others because they don't help her at all. Take Adam and the others and you know what happens? Samus finishes the mission faster. Take Dane and the federation and you know what happens? Samus has a harder time taking down the space pirates (not saying is impossible because is Samus and she can do anything).