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pokoko on 16 August 2015
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RolStoppable said:
pokoko said:

1.  I don't even know or care what you're doing here so I cut it out.

2.  No.  You seem to think if one game is slightly different from another then, bam, instant diversity.  It doesn't work that way.  Diversity means a range of different things.  Mario Kart to Mario World to Super Mario Bros. is about as diverse as listing Fry Cook to Grill Cook at McDonalds as examples of diverse careers.  Does Nintendo have some diversity?  Of course.  Do they cover a wide range of genres, aesthetics, tastes, and styles?  Not as many as Playstation, which is the core of my argument.

3.  I disagree with you completely.  Having games in all different segments of the market has been Sony's strategy and it's worked pretty well, as they continue to create volume.  Yoshida himself said that many Sony games don't turn a profit.  They still make them, though, as all those different types of games benefit the platform itself.

“PlayStation platforms have been home for so many diverse, creative and innovative games from both first and third parties. That diversity, depth and breadth of games defined PlayStation,” muses Yoshida.  http://www.gamesradar.com/yoshidas-fave-playstation-games/

The core of your argument is flawed, because the topic is about first parties. The quote of Yoshida you provided highlights this again. You continue to mix first and third parties together which you have done from the beginning. That you cut out the first point is not because you don't know what's up, but because you very well know what it's about.

As for this specifically, taken from the above quote:

Diversity means a range of different things. Mario Kart to Mario World to Super Mario Bros. is about as diverse as listing Fry Cook to Grill Cook at McDonalds as examples of diverse careers.

It stands in direct contradiction with this:

pokoko said:

I'm sure you understand what I'm saying, even if you play ignorant.  Super Mario Bros. is a platformer, Mario Kart is a racing game, and Mario Tennis is a sports game.  Do you understand?  This isn't hard.  If they made a Metroid type game and reskinned it Mario, would you still call it a "Mario game" above all else and ignore that it is an entirely different genre?

Well, you probably would, but most of the world would not.

As far as Galaxy and 3Dworld being so different in style ... yeah, okay, no.  Not that I mind, of course, because I've already explained to you that I'm talking about different kinds of games.

Isn't that cool? Not too long ago you argued the exact opposite when it came to Mario games.

This inconsistency is easily explained by your well-known dislike for Nintendo, so you say whatever suits you best at any given moment. I'd like to use this opportunity to make something official.

Ever since the mod team thread has been locked, my playground is gone. The mods don't want to play games with me anymore. What's worse, Smeags has stepped down from the head mod position, delivering another blow to my ambitions to get things back on track. But I haven't sat idle during the past month and worked on a contingency plan, so I've collected a good amount of your posts to have something to play with in the future. The rules of the game will be simple:

1. If I see you posting nonsense related to Nintendo, I'll look through the posts I have at hand. By the way, your posting history is quite impressive.
2. The game is always initiated by you, so you'll just have to post whenever you want to play.

I consider this a fair set of rules because it leaves a good amount of control in your hands.

Oh, wow, you've been digging up old posts in order to make a point.  That's funny and also ... well, creepy as cats, but still funny.  But still creepy.

Though, let me say, I don't care about your games or your personal problems.  Do as you like but spare me your reasons and rationalizations.  

So, where are we at?  McDonalds has fry cooks, grill cooks, AND someone on the milkshake machine?  I know you're not dumb, I know you fully understand that I'm talking about different things with each post.  In one, I'm talking about Mario games belonging to different genres while still being Mario games, in the other I'm talking about games that are completely unique in tone, style, and aesthetic principles.  Are you going to tell me that you can't tell the difference?  That Journey and The Last of Us do not display more diversity than Mario Kart and Mario Galaxy?  You should be able to manage that much, shouldn't you?

I'm still kind of surprised that you haven't trotted out a list of Wii U first-party exclusives to line up against PS4 first-party exclusives in order to prove your objection.  Wouldn't that be the quickest way for you to win this?

Really, though, if you think Nintendo has more diversity than Sony then more power to you.  As someone who has owned multiple systems from both, I disagree.  Part of the reason I never went back to Nintendo was that so many of the games shared the same look, the same tone, and the same lack of depth.  Like it or not, that's the honest truth.  You don't like that?  I'm actually shrugging right now.  

Wow, though.  Creepy.