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Gnizmo, i read your post on the top of this page. sony is forcing bluray onto there customers! can you honestly tell me that you would rather want a DVD player in your 360 than a bluray player? im not even talking movies here. you would NOT want 50 gigs, maybe in the future alot more, of space for your games?! maybe if microsoft had "forced" there customers to have HDDVD- HDDVD would be a success and youd be playing Metal Gear Solid! oh ya, they made the wrong choice.