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Player2 said:

Different administrations had an impact on how far would USA go, I agree, but the very same Truman authorized the overthrown of the democratic government of Guatemala in 1952. The reason to do it? This way an american company would make more money. It ended being cancelled, not because of morals, but because it become public.

There's no need to argue abut the outcoming scenario as Eisenhower continued where Truman stopped: 36 years of civil war, over 200000 dead civilians, genocide against mayan population, all kinds human right violations.

So I don't buy the idea of Truman doing things to save lives in the middle of a war.

Considering how brutal and deadly the land war against Japanese soldiers had been prior to the atomic bombings I'd argue it seems believable. Japanese soldiers suffered worse casualties than Allied forces when battling on land and civilians didn't fare well either. An invasion of Japan would have likely been worse.

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Saeko said:

I do understand why U.S. used these bomb in a certain way.... what i don't understant its why TWO ? one single one and a warning for more should have been enough for japan to surrender, juste for this, i  call  them monster !

From Wiki:
'A uranium gun-type atomic bomb (Little Boy) was dropped on Hiroshima on August 6, followed by a plutonium implosion-type bomb (Fat Man) on the city of Nagasaki on August 9.'

So USA was testing two different types of nuclear bombs. Thats why it was two bombings.

Your reasoning is terribly flawed. Have you considered the possibility that perhaps there were two bombings because the Japanese were still not willing to surrender following the first atom bomb?

Since one specific session of Superme War Council on August 9th that initiated the process that ended up with Japan's surrender eventually was convended few minutes before Nagasaki explosion, it doubt the latter was the direct reasoning behind the urgency of said session. Hiroshima bombing that happened full three days before apparently wasn't worthy of any immediate action as well. The culprit is not really hard to indentify, few hours before Nagasaki was shelled into oblivion, before sunrise Red Army has started an offensive operation in Manchuria, therefore ruining any hopes for anything but uncomitted surrender for Japan.

BTW I posted a link few posts above to recently declassified document on the situation a month later after bombings, it's pretty interesting. Author's emphasis is that radiophobia, a hysteria behind bombings and their effects, is an afterthought that to a great degree was stirred up by the media and used as an excuse for surrender.

I'm sorry, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.