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Machina said:
MegaManX said:
Machina said:


Hilarious. 'Okay, you got me, there is one, but my religion doesn't teach that'.

No but yours does, for example, have a history of homophobia, misogyny, of encouraging the spread of HIV and Aids through its opposition to contraception, aggressive proselytism, opposition to sexual freedoms, of covering up mass child rape within the church, and that's just its more abhorrent aspects in recent decades. Not exactly an organisation of untold virtue now is it? Go back further and things get really ugly.


Wow, and you're an admin.  

Sounds like you could be describing the government of most countries in the middle east, the US, most countries really.  Slavery, over taxation, gay marriage, and more are really governmental issues.  You MIGHT be critizing my religion but only the misguided efforts of a few poor leaders and pedophiles who bluffed their way into service who obviously were only using the religion as a means to the end and didn't follow the teachings.  Just like the boy scouts could tell you.  

You also left out the moral backbone that dictates our laws, all the billions of dollars over the years that was donated by Catholics for relief aid as well as missionaries, priests and nuns who worked to help the sick and poor regardless of ANYTHING, race, religion, sex, sexuality etc, often giving up their own lives to care for them.  The good works and teachings of the Bible and Jesus though helping those less fortunate, regardless of race, sex, sexual orientation (Jesus saved a prostitute from execution) or any other factors. The Virgin Mary, Mother Teresa, Joan of Arc and other female saints say hi and are greatly revered.  Against sexual freedoms, you mean like the gov was denying them (seperation of church and state).  Against contraception for valuing life, oh noes, preaching monogamy, wait you said we were pedophiles.  Nothing wrong with trying to convert people to your religion, just like MSNBC and Fox do, we don't do it by the sword though :).  

Your ability to compartmentalise and ignore the abuses and intolerances of your religion is a perfect illustration of how they were able to go on for so long without being condemned. Thank fuck most of the western world is slowly moving on, away from such backwards beliefs.

Incidentally, your religion was at the forefront of 'converting by the sword' during the crusades and, of course, the inquisition.

Your bias and inability to seperate the poor leaders from the teachings and beliefs of it's peoples is the perfect illustration for my point in the first place, your intolerant with a flimsy knowledge of history and just as the US and other countries that had slavery, dictators, genocides, or whatever skeltons in their closets over the years, they have tried to move past them.  No government, religion or organization is perfect and I'm not going to defend those who made moral or other decisions against what my religion preaches.  Oh my religion of over 1.2 billion or over 2.2 billion with other Christian denominaitons.  Don't worry we aren't going anywhere and whatever we lose in people we will make up for once they see the alternative.  Not to mention Islam is the growing at an ever increasing rate.  

But nice try, it's good for everyone to see that you aren't a neutral admin and clearly have issues with religion.  Feel free to educate yourself and get over it.