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Million on 03 May 2008
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FJ-Warez said:
Million said:
FJ-Warez said:
Million said:
 
FJ your debating about something you can't ever win in , Background ,tree , ruin etc is more than artistic talent it requires proccesing power. The PS3 is capable of far more detailed and realistic ( contributing to immersiveness) enviroment , there's nothing developers can do to overcome the Wii's hardware limitations.


This is not about the Wii limitations, is about the immersion of a game, if you think about for a second by your logic, no game has been immersive until this gen, and to this point no game is immersive anymore until they found a way to surpass Crysis...

Immersion is not provided only by the graphics, if that was the case Wii Sports wouldn't be a success, and any GTA in the PS2 era was a disaster...

Immersivness is only a single factor of a games overall quality , so why you comparing it to sales performance is beyond me...

 

I said Graphics "Contribute" to immersivness , GTA is actualy one of the most immersive games on the PS3/360 because of the level of detail it's able to achieve , the open world and active enviroment all contribute to the immersivness of the game.

Wii Sports is hardly immersive , and it doesn't need to be either , Immersive =/= Sales. I think your definition of immersive is slightly messed up.

How many times has the word been said in this thread lol.

 


Then answer me, which game was more immersive, SotC or Halo, GoW or Ninja Gaiden??, this gen is full of nice graphics game, but there is more examples of great game with poor graphics with high levels of immersive gameplay, Wii sport is the best example, the success is not for the graphics, is for the immersion caused by the the new way of interaction...

GTA series is a nice example too, with poor graphics the game provides a great level of immersion due to the interaction and the history...


I don't even think your reading my post's properly. I said graphics "contribute" to immersivness I didn't say graphical abiliity definesthe level of immersivness. But crappy graphics deprive the the immersivness of the game because or eyes are starting to adjust to HD level graphics.

 There are many factors which affect immersivness.

Audio

Voice Acting

Graphics ( A major factor)

Level of Detail

Story Line

Gameplay

User involvment

 

Wii Sports is an interactive game !!!  Interactivity contributes to immersion but it also doesn't define the level of immersion in a game. The more interactive a game is the less immersive it can be , interactivity requires concious thought , concious thought make you feel more external to the game.

 GTA has similar levels of interaction to the average game , like I said before , the believability of the GTA world , the enviroments ,storyline ,  gameplay , audio , graphics , level of detail are all contributing factors.