| DerNebel said: That's exactly what I'm talking about, people are immediately assuming the worst, who in the world is talking about making it like Skyrim? And the remake does not need to have the exact same gameplay to feel like FF7 because FF games are not like FF games because of one set specific type of gameplay, if that was the case then FF combat wouldn't have been undergoing changes for ages, which has always been pretty much accepted up until FF XIII. The game doesn't come out until 2017 at best and Final Fantasy on console in 2017 does not have to be 2 groups standing in front of each other and taking turns hitting each other until one group is dead and if SE are looking to modernize that, then I say let them take a shot at it. But instead of keeping an open mind you have people saying things like "It's going to have different combat? Then I'm not going to buy it. Fuck you SE for ruining this" without knowing literally anything about how this is going to be changed and that is mindboggling to me. |
Okay, Skyrim was an extreme exageration. Let's change that shall we and say Kingdom Hearts (and in turn FF15), people mention ARPG, there is no finer ARPG made buy the Japanese in my view. You know, Kingdom Hearts is bloody great, Disney characters running around fighting along side anime like characters. Brilliant. Free flowing action combat is great in it but that's Kingdom Hearts gameplay. People are actually saying they would prefer if FF7 was more like this but I'm saying why? You have Kingdom Hearts (and FF15) for that.
I am open minded but not in a bloody remake. What's the point of remaking it if it's not got the same gameplay? the essential part of games. FF15 is coming out with it's flashy new ARPG style, I'm willing to buy that and give it a shot (because of KH of all things) but the idea of FF7 remake not having the same basic gameplay is odd.
| fatslob-:O said: That doesn't mean you can't take ideas from other games and improve on it ... If FF games featured very little combat tweeks the franchise would stagnate. I thought FFX had the best combat and that game had some fair changes compared to FFVII, VIII, or IX and SE got new fans in the end too ... Even though you couldn't control all the characters in battle the critics still outright crapped on EVERYTHING about it and the only one that really deviated was FFXII but even FFXIII fixed a few of it's problems and it shows when it outsold FFXII ... If FFXV gets new fans to maintain it's franchise then why shouldn't it go through with the changes ? It's good for a franchise to keep finding new customers even though it might alienate the old fans. The gamers that played Final Fantasy 20 years ago are not the same ones from today ... Tomb Raider found some success in trying to be more like Uncharted but why can't SE take some bold moves to do the same for FF ? |
The FF games didn't stagnate in the SNES and PS1 years. The gameplay was basically the same but each itteration the way magic worked differed, abilities differed, summons differed, story as well. These things make it not stagnate and create a new game each time keeping the fundermental FF gameplay mechanics in place.
When in FFX could you not control all characters? Are you talking the one moment with Seymore joined your party, I personally prefered more traditional ATB in FFX-2 over FFX but still.
FF15 and beyond can go through changes, might lose a few fans but they can make changes. It's the future of the series after all, FF7 isn't the future, it's the past and people love FF7 not some dodgy FF7 - KH edition.
And the fact FF13 got more sales that FF12 is sad, FF12, even without FF contained arenas was a fantastic game, far superior to FF13.
Uncharted's last entry sold over 6 million on 1 platform, new Tomb Raider sold around just under 6mil on 5. It was a success but that format of gameplay was Tomb Raider updating and adapting it's gameplay to replicate the success of what was at the time the market leader. FF is the market leader in JRPGs, why is it updating? Other games should be making themselves like FF.
Hmm, pie.
