Rocket League with 5 Million downloads since launch!

[binary solo]

starcraft said:

binary solo said:

Why? If Sony pays them $2 per PSN+ download and PSN+ downloads are 4 million that's still $8 million in the bank from PSN+. Would Rocket League have 400K $20 downloads off PSN if it didn't come to PSN+? Maybe, maybe not. But we can be pretty damned sure it wouldn't be 4 million+.

It's beyond doubt that Sony is paying something for each PSN+ download, the game isn't a free giveaway. It might be that Sony can convince 3rd parties that PSN+ downloads of old games don't need Sony to pay for each download. But a new release game, no way Sony is getting that for free.

Games are not free on PSN+, we're just paying for [renting actually] them by a different model. It's quite possible that the developer could get the full 1st month PSN+ sub if someone subscribes to PSN+ for the first time and the first download is Rocket League. So that might be as much as $5. We have no idea what the agreement is with a new release game going up on PSN+, but it'll sure be a bigger pay out than a year old game going up on PSN+.

I'm shit at playing this game, but I really enjoy the twitch streams of the top players.

I have often been curious about the payment model used for PS+ and Xbox Games with Gold.

I'd have thought it would be much more likely that Sony/MS would just offer up a flat fee up front (varying depending on the nature of the game, how long its been out, pedigree of the developer etc).

@ Everyone else.

Guys, its pretty self-evident that:

1. The game is pretty good.

2. The excellent sales are in large part due to it being offered through the PS+ scheme.

I really don't see that its necessary to get too far off-track debating which of those points is most relevant, they are not mutually exclusive.

It could be a mix: We'll pay you $2 million up front to put (new release game) on PSN+ / XBLGwG, if it reaches benchmark A we'll give you another million and we'll give you another million for each of benchmarks B, C, D and E. We'll talk some more if it reaches benchmark F and beyond.

I think Rocket league must be getting close to benchmark F. It certainly seems like Psyonix wasn't expecting this level of success, so if there are bonus benchmarks they are probably relatively modest. I just hope Psyonix had enough confidence in the game to put in some highly ambitious benchmarks, and I hope Sony was sufficiently generous or [more likely] sceptical of it reaching the ambitious benchmarks to agree.