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windbane on 03 May 2008
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makingmusic476 said:
windbane said:
makingmusic476 said:
Yeah, it definitely doesn't deserve 10s. I mean, it may be great, but 10 is usually reserved for games that just can't get any better when they are released, and will probably still be great for years to come. GTAIV definitely doesn't pass the former, and the latter is debatable, imo.

I think it's still a AAA, though.

Every game has flaws, though. A 10/10 just means the game is that good compared to everything else out.

It depends on the reviewer.  For a reviewer like Play!, a 10 could be looked on in that sense.  They through out tens fairly often, and an really good game will usually get a 10.

But for a site like IGN or GameSpot?  Tens are MUCH harder to come by.  

Sites like these giving GTAIV a ten is comparable to GameSpot giving the ps2 version of THPS3 a 10 back in 2001, imo.  Sure, the game was truly awesome back in the day, but in a few years people were thinking, "What the hell?" 

Though obviously GTAIV will hold up much better than THPS3 did. 


I can't wait to play this game because I want to have my own opinion of it. Personally, I like the 20-point scale without decibels, or 8.5, 9.0, 9.5, 10.0. If you look back at a game and realize that for what it does it is better than anything that came before it, it should be a 10. Minor flaws shouldn't require deducting .1 points. Playing Oblivion, a game I would probably give a 10, I realize there are sometimes pop-in and framerate issues like GTA has. However, those occur so seldom that it's hardly worth mentioning. I'm sure on the PC on high setting it used to happen more, but there's a point where minor flaws do not detract from the overall game. Thinking something like "man, I sure would like a battleship offshore in GTA" shouldn't mean the game gets a .1 deduction. You could always add to a game stuff that people would find fun. Improvements are always possible. Perhaps to some people GTA IV deserves a lower score than 10, and perhaps 9.9 is easier to use when it has a minor flaw. Some reviews did that. But for those that feel that the game is just head and shoulders better than anything before it, why shouldn't it get a 10 if the MINOR flaws don't detract from the overall experience?