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Jimbo1337 on 22 July 2015
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MikeRox said:
Jimbo1337 said:

How is that broadening the conversation on guns by including tranquilizer guns and taser guns in the discussion?  

Then you dismiss and downplay these non-lethal forms of guns by saying that they do what they are designed to do...which is to shoot someone/thing.  I could say the same thing about knives, which has no purpose other than to cut someone/thing :p.

What is your point?  


My point is, when people say "ban guns" they are not even referring to tranquilizers etc. They purely mean Desert Eagles, AK47s, etc.

Some "Kill" some "Stun". There is a very big difference between these.

If a sole purpose is kill, then it serves no purpose in a "modern society". If Captain Jean-Luc Picard (from the same town as me :p) says set your phasers to Stun. Then it's cool! :p

No, the very first point that I replied to said this:

"Rope, Knives, Acid etc all have purposes beyond killing someone. Not sure what other function a gun serves than to fire a bullet at someone/thing.

Therein lies the difference."

You have now just stated that  "some kill and some stun", so guns do something beyond just killing.  

Again you can take a pistol and put non-lethal ammunition in it as I have already stated.  

I don't really understand your point on banning guns and why you see no reason to follow suit in also banning knives.  I feel that banning guns or knives does not solve the main problem.  You have to ask yourself that millions of people in America own a gun and almost every person owns a deadly knife, yet we see deaths at 8,500 or 1,500 for guns and knives respectvely, which are nowhere close to a million.  Laws keep everyone in check; however there are still a small group of people that disregard these laws because they are doing something illegal (such as selling/buying drugs).  

So my point is to attack at the root causes, such as stopping the buying/selling of illegal drugs, increase security at local banks etc, which in turn will reduce gun/knife violence.  If you want to do illegal things or rob banks, you will find a gun/knife even if there are bans on guns/knives.