Another Shooting, Another Gun Free Zone

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DialgaMarine said:

RadiantDanceMachine said:
Having guns doesn't prevent drive-by shootings. For fuck's sake, you can't seriously be presenting such a flawed propaganda piece and expect not to be ridiculed for it. Either you're incompetent and fail to recognize what is trivially illogical, or you're baiting people such as myself into a political rant.

Either way, I'm outta here.

 What's your solution then? Hate to break the news to you, but here in reality, the only thing that can prevent a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Why do you think that the most dangerous places in the country are the ones that happen to also have the strictest gun laws, while the safest are the ones with the most leniant? I'm not saying we all go willy nilly wild west with guns, but creating laws that make it more difficult for people to own firearms, simply removes the guns from law abiding citizens. Words on a paper aren't going to stop criminals from being criminals.

4 Marines are going to be put in the ground in a few days, all because the liberals in this country are so damn afraid of servicemembers (men and women who are specifically trained to use them) from carrying firearms in places where they have no other form of security and are completely exposed. 

They're not.

These are the top 10 states for gun murders per capita.

District of Columbia	16.5
Louisiana	7.7
Missouri	5.4
Maryland	5.1
South Carolina	4.5
Delaware	4.2
Michigan	4.2
Mississippi	4.0
Florida	3.9
Georgia	3.8

Several of those states have quite liberal gun laws. And the bottom 10 states for gun murders per capita are also a mix of states with liberal and strict gun laws. So the gun law situation in a state does not correlate well with gun murder rates.

And on a country basis, countries with very strict gun laws, like UK, Australia and New Zealand have extremely low rates of gun murder per capita. USA gun murder rate is 3.55/100K people. New Zealand is 0.26/100K, Australia is 0.11/100K, UK is 0.05/100K. The countries with gun murder rates above 2/100K are pretty much South American countries, Caribbean countries, USA, African countries. The list of 1st world countries with gun murder rates above 2/100K: USA and Montenegro. The list of first world countries with gun murder rates above 1/100K: USA, Montenegro, Croatia, Macedonia. And calling some of these countries 1st world is pretty debateable.

There is something broken in the USA when it comes to gun violence, and it's not the lack of legal access to guns.