Another Shooting, Another Gun Free Zone

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Rpruett said:

MikeRox said:

Rpruett said:
Comparing the United States to Europe or anywhere is else is foolish. Different circumstances, different society, different culture. The United States widely being considered the 'top' country in the world, while also having their hands involved in nearly every military conflict on the globe also makes them a target. Additionally, the United States has a drastically larger population than most individual European countries and several more large-scale cities and also borders more dangerous countries than a majority of Europe. This doesn't begin to address geographic differences and the significantly shorter amount of time that the country of the United States has existed. It's easier for Australians to ban guns, they're an island in the middle of nowhere and have 23 million people total. That's pretty much equivalent to the state of Texas in population.

You can find examples on BOTH sides of this argument. Switzerland has very open gun laws and has virtually no issues. Australia has very strict gun laws and has virtually no issues. 

 

Not being funny, but geographically, the US is in a near perfect place to avoid fallout from policy etc.

US considered "Top" Country maybe, but that's where the UK was 100 years ago. UK still has it's hand in pretty much every conflict. Won't deny the larger US population but to say you border more dangerous countries than most Eurpean countries is ridiculous. You have oceans protecting you from most of the countries that would be likely to attack.

All I hear here is wah wah I want my gun. Australia's strict gun laws came in for the same reason the UK's did. The result is far fewer mass shootings.

US is considered a top country for economic success, with some of the largest cities, one of the most desirable cultures.  Geopgraphically, the United States is connected to Mexico which has tons of crime issues. Illegal immigration has brought plenty of crime into the United States.

Mass shootings mean very little if the homicide rate does not drop.  Do we have categorical studies that prove that to be the case?   In the UK,  stabbings, clubbings, beatings have all dramatically increased since the ban on guns.  If someone wants to kill somebody, they will find a way and the legality of it will not impede them.   After all,  Murder is against the law isn't it?   How well does that prevent someone from doing it?

You can hear 'wah' 'wah' I want my gun,  all you'd like but then you'd be actually missing the point.  The simple point is that self-protection is a right that nobody should have the ability to take away from you.    Australia has strict gun laws....Do you think the politicians in power in Australia have guns protecting themselves and their children?  If so....why? Why them and not you?  

And while the rest of the world can laugh or say whatever they'd like to say about it --- the fact remains that the United States essentially serves as the predominant  militaristic protector of close to 2/3rds of the world.  The United States hasn't had to deal with opressive governments taking over and controlling essentially a helpless populace (See Germany, Italy, Russia, etc).  

not just the nazis had guns in weimar, but they had the best connections to get the police shooting at their enemys...