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sc94597 said:
mornelithe said:

Yeah, I'll never understand folks who won't lift a finger to try and solve the problem, because 'you can't stop it all'.  What an obtuse world view.

My argument is that you are telling people to give up large amounts of freedoms for an arguably marginal amount of security. Not that nothing can be done. The end of the war on drugs would reduce much crime in the U.S as an alternative solution, for example.

My argument is discussion of the issue, all options on the table, is a far far better way to find a solution, than to insinuate that a 'large amount of freedoms' being given up (Right to bear arms, is actually just 1 freedom) What you just said is hyperbole, and it's also intellectually dishonest, because few American's would ever support an across the board gun ban, let alone the members of the House and Senate actually passing such a measure to amend the Constitution.  It's not going to happen, so let's cut that out, shall we?  It really doesn't move the discussion further.

Besides, there's more here than just guns going on.  There's extremism, there's mental health, there's America's actions abroad, the amount of illegal guns in circulation in the US and I'm sure a plethora more that I'm not thinking of at the moment.  I firmly believe solving this issue will require us to analyze all of these things, and address the holes in policy, enforcement, etc... whereever it is.  But, that's not going to happen if everytime this issue comes up, everyone only voices fear about the Government coming after our guns!  I would like to point out, the Government hasn't, in recent memory (added because I'm not going back throughout history to find it), ever suggested they were going to go door to door to 'take our guns'.

Also, keep in mind, I have 3 guns, but, I'm also open to talking about this issue, because I really don't like seeing things like Newtown, Aurora, Chattanooga etc...