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generic-user-1 said:

but we allready have the best roads in the world.  no other country lets you drive with good speed on the roads because they know their roads suck.  could you imagine driving 240km/h(150mph) on a highway or a road in russia? and sure public transportation could be a bit better, but its allready good.  and if we improve such things we will need less energie.    there is just no way europe can consume more energie, we all have fridges and cars, and we cant buy a 2nd and 3rd fridge just because the 1st one consumes so little energie. there is just no need.

*shrug shoulders* as you say, but for some reason a great deal of said infrastracture has been built elsewhere, but surely Germany has the best roads out there, perfect for speed driving :D

generic-user-1 said:

and water isnt a function of energie. it comes for free out of the sky, no need for energie as long as you dont life in a desert.

Ok, you drink THAT :D Half of the planet lives in not exactly deserts but in places that have problems with melioration and drinking water if not for existing infrastracture like pump stations, channels, storage reservoirs etc., which all require neverending investment to build and support. If investment are no more said places might not be able to support current population densities, like California, for example.

//You happen not only take every word I say somewhat personally (as if I pissed on German flag, even though I didn't even mentioned Germany, nor implied it most of the time), but do it in incredibly twisted way. Well, if in your world resource peaks don't exist, oil production are just holes in the ground that could stop and go at will (apparently the word 'capex' is not part of your vocabulary), infrastructure revolves around highways, then I'm doing a sisyphus work here.