generic-user-1 said:
they dont trust the state because they never lived in a state with a good working government. germany has a retirement system that is in the middle of state run and ngo run and it works well(the influence of the state is important because the state has to subsidies the system if there isnt enough money, and the state pays alot of money into that organisation for people that cant pay into the system. same is right for healthcare. we are allowed to vote for the people we want in charge of those organisations in special elections.
the understanding of labor laws of those people looks wrong too. labor laws are just the minimum not the maximum. a minimum wage is the least someone is allowed to pay, the unions can fight for better intern labor regulations. works well in europe but you need unions...
and farming programs are a problem, but the basic idea isnt wrong, making food cheaper. |
I think you must consider the American context. When people came to the U.S they were fleeing European statism. While European states have increasingly becoming more free, and the state has remained quite constant in peoples lives, this has been the opposite for Americans. Whether you are on the left or the right here you are pretty liberal/libertarian as well. And this is even more true with the younger generations today, influenced by the internet.
Essentially the left-wing of the U.S is generally libertarian socialist, of the French sort (Proudhon) and the left-wing of Europe is still pretty Marxist.
Anyway, these people are very left wing. They want wage labor abolished, and view any compromise as the equivalent of sprinkling sprinkles on dirt and saying the dirt tastes better now. FDR's New Deals were actually a major setback for the syndicalist s and mutualists, and these ideas have only become popular again through the internet - much like right-libertarianism.
