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sc94597 on 11 July 2015
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generic-user-1 said:

oh and i found the answer for this thread...

“Should any party attempt to abolish social security and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group of course, that believes you can do these things … Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”  some republican president

As the country becomes more libertarian (on both the right and left: vulgar libertarian, mutualist, syndicalist,  and social anarchist) these numbers are growing. I really don't care if "some republican president" said that. He likely said that to appeal to populists at the time of his presidency, which is not now. It doesn't matter who says it. Sooner, rather than later, a whole generation is going to find itself without a sound retirement plan. 

I'll actually target your quote from a far left perspective this time (syndicalist) (Note: The American far-left has historically been much more syndicalist, while European far-left has historically been much more state-socialist):

Social security: Workers should be in charge of their retirements, not the state. The workers can manage retirements through non-government unions in their chosen industry. The state pillages the product of our labor, and uses it to subsidize capitalists and to protect capitalist assets through warfare. 

Labor laws: Workers should decide the labor conditions in their workplaces through the democratic process, but only they can do it. Government should not decide such conditions, because they aren't suited to decide which conditions meet the workers' needs, and often they give special consideration to capitalists. Furthermore, the state uses such laws to popularize wage labor and ACTUALLY reduce the cost of wage labor in general. 

Farm programs: Farm programs are designed to give surplus product to capitalists. Otherwise, farming would be a perfectly competitive market (with zero profit - the mutualist argument) or it would be managed by the worker unions. 

or a (market socialist perspective -mutualist)

Social Security:  Retirement plans should not be mandated or forced upon people. This allows for the state to enact fraud in which they promise rewards, but really they wish to tax and redistrbute these resources to capitalists. 

Labor laws: If is the decisions of individuals and groups to decide their own working conditions. Labor laws tend to subsidize the social cost of wage labor and make it more popular. Wage labor is theft. 

Farm Programs: If the state did not give farmers subsidies, then it would be impossible to profit off of farming (profiting is stealing the surplus product from the laborers.) People would farm as much as they need without state interference. 

Anyway, it is quite obvious that personal retirement accounts have worked better in securing retirement in a fair and free manner in other countries. Meanwhile many countries with public retirement schemes are facing huge issues.