| That Guy said: Ok, then everything is agreed. Back to the problem of ID: You can't form a theory on a negative statement. For the sake of argument, lets assume that evolution is not true. Assuming i'm a creationist, I assert "evolution is false, therefore, creationism must be true." That statement is not enough to form a scientific theory. Proving A is false doesn't automatically mean that B is true. Too many ID people play that card, and I think its a little annoying. |
I'm not sure where your first point is relevant...ID to my knowledge is formed on the affirmative statement that "Life and the Universe have a designer".
I agree completely that many do use the logic you mentioned, but that sort of thing is not a necessity. I think the problem is that ID as a theory doesn't really fit into science even when properly and formally stated. However I wouldn't be against someone building a scientific version of the theory if they believe they can. It would at least be interesting to see it formalized.
I think ID fits better as a philisophical argument, but again I would appreciate it being formalized as such. I would like to be able to read up on some sort of official ID theory/philosophy to better understand their position but to my knowledge such a thing doesn't exist. And indeed to teach a class on the topic it would have to.
On that note I would have no problem with ID being listed in a group of theories that have yet to be proven and studied from the perspective of "what did these theories do wrong" etc... Students can learn how to approach the community and it could prove quite beneficial in that format. Although I will point out that if the theory is formalized so that it can be part of the class then there is no longer a need to entice students to formalize it...which is part of why I'm fine with it. But I do think that if someone formalizes the theory it should be given a fair shake before it's simply banished to the corner to be scoffed at as a bad example. The work should go into the theory by someone who supports it and wants it to be taken seriously and it should get its time at the podium once that work is done.
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