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RubberWhistleHistle on 07 July 2015
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DerNebel said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
DerNebel said:

Point is that it's pretty weird for you to claim that you expected some new releases for this year at E3 when you made predictions before the show which include non of that. See, I know that Sonys first party is behind on the PS4 and that their 2015 output is thin, I've complained about it, but at this point bringing it up time and time again is not going to change that. This thread is about E3 conferences and who has "won" them, never has the winner of a conference been decided by who announces more games that are coming out in the same year, so bringing this into this thread seems like baiting and nothing more.

im bringing it up because it is in a thread about the e3 press conferences. yes, sony dropped big bombs, but we have no idea when those bombs are coming out, and even if they are coming out (well, some of them). like i said before, they should have had something this fall that they could have been able to announce. instead, they gave us a game that doesnt look like it has changed at all since its first showing (last guardian, what have they been doing with this title for all these years? at least it still exists), an announcement of a remake that was nothing but CG (no gameplay, really?) and an announcement of a kickstarter which just doesnt sit well or seem right to me. i mean, i get that these are big names to drop, but when you look past that, you have to ask yourself what are they even really giving you? horizon was the biggest and best thing out of all three conferences combined, so that was a great looking game that we actually saw detailed gameplay for and we know is coming soon. 

i know everything i just wrote is going to piss you off, but please just try to remember that its just my opinion. i dont feel like sony gave us much that was solid or concrete and people look past all of that and overwhelmingly give them the win. i think MS had a much better show. and while nintendo had a terrible show with a terrible presentation, theyre delivering the goods which at the end of the day is what we are really all here for. but this topic isnt about that, it is about conferences. 

They had something for this fall that they could have announced, you know what they did with that? They announced it a week before the show, apparently a huge mistake because now people are acting like it doesn't exist or that Sony not showing it at the conference makes that conference horrible. TLG doesn't look like it changed much because it was never actually running on PS3 hardware, the footage shown in 09 was running at a couple FPS and then sped up for the trailer. Yes the FF VII Remake trailer had no gameplay, just like the ReCore trailer had no gameplay, just like Star Fox last year didn't have any gameplay or SMTxFE when it was originally announced, CG trailers aren't great (though the FF VII trailer was awesomely done) but in this case it's the simple fact that this exists that makes it such a massive announcement. And I'm not going to discuss the whole freaking Shenmue situation again, suffice to say that I'm sick of people trying to bash Sony for actually helping to make it happen instead of bashing everyone else for not doing anything in the last 14 years.

And I don't have to ask myself what they are giving me cause I know that, yes like I said Sonys first party output in 2015 is slim (though I'm still getting the UC Collection and Rime as well as NMS and Persona 5 this year, all of which have at least some sort of exclusivity on PS) but starting 2016 the whole situation looks extremely different with SFV, UC4 and R&C coming in the first half of the year and Horizon, TLG and GT7 also looking at a 2016 release. There's also smaller games like Dreams and Rigs (though that's likely Morpheus exclusive) that are 2016 as well. All of those are just the already confirmed games, so I don't see how Sony didn't give us anything solid or concrete, even if that stuff is a little farther away. Even Shenmue 3 already has a release window they are aiming at (late 2017), FFVII Remake is literally the only announcement from the conference where there is no solid information of at least a release window of the game.

star fox was tacked on at the end. it took up absolutely no time, and was an amazing way to end the show. it was a cherry on top that we could look forward to some time in the future. they didnt use that as their bread and butter. also, i knew nothing of SMTXFE when it was first announced, therefore i didnt really use that as an example as points for nintendo for an e3 conference. maybe small points. 

as for ps4, when 2016 comes, you might see me singing a completely different tune. we will have to wait and see.