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Intrinsic said:

Talking nonsense? Hmmm.... AMD doesn't make their chips. They outsource the fabrication of those chips. Pls try and put that in perspective. 

i already know that as i already said

Make up ur mind. On one hand you say its their problem if the lag behind then say they have to give Sony this or that regardless. It's really beginning to seem you have no idea what ur talking about and more so that you have no intention to actually listen. 

its their porblem to get everything done

you get employed for your skills,it not like your employers will help you in everything

same way,its AMD's headache to get everything done

Jumping straight to 14nm is the ideal thing to do and the only way meaningful benefits could be achieve. think of it this way.... A 14nm chip in a console is 2 years away from whenever they first appear in a GPU. 

 not necesarily,top making your own ideas

14nm fabrication is already possbile for CPU's

 

they only have to get the research done on the GPU's and they cud be working separatly on APU's

its the manufacturing,that has to be perfected not research,if mnaufacturing is online then as soon as research is done.it can produce

 

also rumors were,back in 2014 they had already shrunk PS4 APU size already and finalized

OK, so if amd and nvidia get on 14nm next year (2016) and you aknowlege a one year delay (2017) doesn't that take us full circle to my original post of saying they earliest a PS4 slim comes is in 2017?


yeah but i still think we will have a PS4 SLIM in September 2016