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enlightenedmaster said:

well they do all the reaserch and get it dionw,all in all its their job to give it to SONY on time

you know what you don't really decide where you shit goes,nothing happens till the flush water flows.............stop talking non-sense and minute details

Talking nonsense? Hmmm.... AMD doesn't make their chips. They outsource the fabrication of those chips. Pls try and put that in perspective. 

thats there problem that they lag behind,they still have to keep the deadline to meet their contract with SONY

Broadwell is laready at 14nm

AMD 16 or 14nm are set to be released in 2016,so is nvidia

Make up ur mind. On one hand you say its their problem if the lag behind then say they have to give Sony this or that regardless. It's really beginning to seem you have no idea what ur talking about and more so that you have no intention to actually listen. 

Jumping straight to 14nm is the ideal thing to do and the only way meaningful benefits could be achieve. think of it this way.... A 14nm chip in a console is 2 years away from whenever they first appear in a GPU. 

i understand that and probably it cud be delayed 1 year but no more than 1 year

and both NVIDIA and AMD are rumord to skip 20nm and straight go to 14nm

 

OK, so if amd and nvidia get on 14nm next year (2016) and you aknowlege a one year delay (2017) doesn't that take us full circle to my original post of saying they earliest a PS4 slim comes is in 2017? 



Anyways.. I think we should just agree to disagree.