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ArchangelMadzz said:
HoloDust said:
ArchangelMadzz said:
HoloDust said:


That is too low for next gen. Fury X is 8.6TFLOPS card (that's just ~4.5x PS4), in GCN FLOPS (nVidia performs about the same with much less 'Maxwell' FLOPS), that manages barely above 30fps in 4K in most demanding games - I don't think anyone would be happy to see games looking the same as now, just in 4K.

Most likely scenario for 2019 is some 15TFLOPS, but even that is hardly enough for native 4K, once 1080p to 4K resolution penalty is taken into account and necessity to amaze audience with 'moah graphix' compared to 8th gen.

I mean, they could go with native 4K even with that, but forums will be burning with 'diminishing returns' threads.

My bet for around 15TFLOPS is mostly 1920x2160 to 2560x2160 resolutions.

15tflops is too little for 4K? really? r9 295x2 has 11.5 tflops. (dual gpu) and the r9 295x2 tears 4k. Easily enough for 4k 30fps and 40k 60fps with PC optimisation, let alone console optimisation. 15tflops would be easily enough to handle 4k.

15TFLOPS (AMD's current FLOPS) is only 8x PS4, that's less than PS3 to PS4 jump. And 720p to 1080p of 7th to 8th gen is lot less than 1080p to 4K.

So yeah, it is to low for native 4K, if any meaningful bump in visuals is to be achieved.

Woah, high end PC 4k visuals isn't a meaningful bump to visuals? Don't let the master race guys see that shit ;)

Not talking about resolution alone - look at it like this:

You have a certain GPU performance budget. If there is same jump between 7th-8th and 8th-9th gen (that's what those 15TFLOPS are), once you account for resolution bump, which is significantly bigger from 1080p to 4K than it is for 720p to 1080p, you are left with as lot less of that budget than you are in this gen to improve your visuals over previous gen.

So yeah, you can have some improvements, but not nearly as much as if you had GPU that leaves you with same relative jump in performance after resolution bump as in current gen. This is why I don't see native 4K as valid option, at least not for that sort of TFLOPS.