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twintail said:
Nuvendil said:

Well, one thing history bears out about Nintendo's general IPs are that they have very broad appeal.  People of all types have played and enjoyed Smash and Kart and the like.  So Nintendo's backlog does them some favors in terms of value and of course everyone knows about the backlog.  I still firmly believe the biggest problem here is Nintendo's promotion.  Whereas most companies put heavy marketing behind IP with big potential, even new ones (Destiny, Watch Dogs, Bloodborne), Nintendo is very selective about what they promote.  And without promotion, it won't matter when it launches. 

Those games may have broad appeal. A game like XBX doesnt, which doesnt make XBX markettable to the same crowd. 

Promotion will be important but ultimately Nintendo are just letting it hang out to dry imho. Nothing is really going to change the fact that PS4/ X1 will be the consoles getting a lot of momentum into December due to November  (does Nintendo even have a major WIiU exclusive for Nov?) and that momentum will continue with Just Cause 3 and Hitman (both easily with far more appeal than XBX) plus the Star Wars movie.

Nintendo thinks December is a good release month since games never usually release during that period: the problem is that their final release date is between 2 highly antiicapted titles (and not on their console either). 

XBX doesnt just need a big marketting push, it needs Nintendo to go all in. And I doubt they are going to do that because it is far too risky.

What I was saying is there is overlap, that people who play all kinds of games (Fallout, CoD, Dragon Age, etc) also play games like Smash and Kart.  That's what has made the franchises successful afterall.  I think that the Kart and Smash demographics overlap with a lot of different audiences, so a lot of the audience XCX interests would also be interested in Smash and Kart and other games on the system, this would just be the tipping point.  A Wii U pricecut would also be helpful.  And like I said, I agree they won't put in the effort for it to be as big as it could.  It has good odds to outsell the first one and I think they'll take that and be done with it.