Reggie was right - misunderstandings cleared up

[Nicklesbe]

Cloudman said:

Nicklesbe said:

They showed zelda in a tech demo in 2011.  Leaked more info in 2012 and gave an 'Official announcement in 2013. I don't know why you keep continuing this 2014 lie. It's not substantiated by any facts. That's 3 years to 2016. Not 2. Which blows your whole speal out of the water. It's basic math. http://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/Zelda_Wii_U " It was first announced during a Nintendo Direct in 2013" Quit the lies already. It's sad at this point.

The thing is though, the thing about Nintendo announcing Zelda in 2014 isn't a lie in the sense that Reggie means. This thread is about Reggie's comments during E3 2015, mostly focusing on the discussions about show casing games and announcing them. The comments in question are:

“Our mentality was that we want to showcase at E3 games that are launching over the next six to nine months”

and

"... We also know that the best way to launch a game like that is to surprise and delight them, to give them a launch date, in an environment like this let them play it vs. what other companies do which is to announce a project that you may not see for five, six years..."

Zelda was first announced in 2013, yes, as stated "On January 23rd, 2013 during a Nintendo Direct video stream, Eiji Aonuma updated about the progress of Zelda for the Nintendo Wii U. He stated that the game still had a significant ways to go..."

Then it was officially revealed at E3 last year, with the plan to release it in 2015, before being delayed. So in the end, Reggie isn't wrong entirely. Zelda was announced in 2013, which is going to be 3 years after the announcement, and footage revealed in 2014 with the intention of release in 2015, which, while likely missing 6 to 9 months, would have launched in 2015 at least. Sure, Zelda would have missed the 6 to 9 month period, but it was still set for 2015. So yeah, it's not wrong, according to Reggie's statement.

My statement isn't about reggie being right or wrong. My statement is about Padib's blatant lies about Nintendo's practices as well as the lies related to Zelda U. He's said numerous times that "Nintendo never announces a game more than 2 years before release" Which is flat out wrong and a lie. 

As far as reggie's comments goes “Our mentality was that we want to showcase at E3 games that are launching over the next six to nine months”  Nintendo wants to do a lot a things that doesn't mean it's going to happen. They have countless games that are released much longer than 9 months. You can't even honestly argue that with Zelda U's 2014 showcase. It's initial release wasn't 9 months away from the showcase it was at least 12. So no that's not partially wrong. It's entirely wrong. It completely misses the projection. There is nothing accurate or kinda right about it. it's incredibly dishonest and wrong.

"... We also know that the best way to launch a game like that is to surprise and delight them, to give them a launch date, in an environment like this let them play it vs. what other companies do which is to announce a project that you may not see for five, six years..."

They have one of the most infamous delays in history. They announced a game and said it was still going to be released for 10 straight years. So again he's not even remotely right since he is personally guilty of worse. There is nothing right about that. What he should have said is "This is our ideal goal but we recognize things happen and that goal can't always be met but it's something we strive for. Even if we have missed the mark in the past, sometimes by very large margins." So again no. He's not kinda right. The information he gave is entirely incorrect, dishonest, and insult to anyone who pays real attention to gaming. You aren't doing Reggie, padib, or yourself any favors by denying reality and lying for them, ignoring all logic in order to try and say they are "kinda right" when such a claim isn't even remotely true.