Ben Stein to take on Darwinism on April 18

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That Guy said:

stof said:

That Guy said:

I have no objection against ID people having their own college courses. If such a demand is there, then there should be a class about it. At this point, however, my opinion is that it should be held as a general elective (much like how theology or philosophy can be general electives). If people want to learn about creationism, then they are certainly welcome to do so. People who subscribe to evolution can still take their evolutionary biology classes.

If the course is to study what ID is, what little basis in science it has, and it's history as a political movement? then sure.

 

If it's a course that actually treats it as a legitimate scientific theory, then it's conception as a college course would pretty much mean that education is no longer based on knowledge.

Whoa I guess i can see where you stand on ID.

Again, if its an elective college course, then yeah I have nothing against it. They could even present it as a scientific theory if they want, just as long as they mention its criticisms. The only thing is I don't think it should be a required course.

I would classify it as perhaps a social science for now (along the same lines as theology or whatever). As ID matures as a field of study, then we'll see where it will be classified.

 

Seriously read what I said again. ID proponents need to formalize an official theory for ID before its going to be taken seriously. If they think it should be taken seriously they have work to do, as it stands right now the only thing we have is people calling for it to be given credence without anyone doing the work to lend it some.

As I said previously: Put the work into the idea and earn your time at the podium like every other idea.

 

edit: And as MisterD points out, a classroom is not the place to hold a scientific debate.  Particularly one that requires a thorough understanding of topics as a prerequisite, that is surely putting the cart before the horse.