Greek economy

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AbbathTheGrim said:

I just wanted to come here and say that I wish Greece a swift recovery and that no matter what happens I will always thank Greece for giving us democracy, western philosophy, advances in science and mathematics, culture, etc. but above everything Septicflesh, Rotting Christ, and Astarte.

The Western world didn't get democracy from Greece (though the Greeks certainly like to think so, well accept me).

Ancient Greece had what we called a direct democracy in certain polis (city-states), the most famous example obviously being Athens. That means that every citizen could vote directly on legislation and executive bills. To vote one had to be an adult male citizen which means women, foreigners, slaves and children were not allowed to vote (i.e. the majority). Approximately 1100 citizens held office each year. Most of them were chosen by lot (i.e. random). A much smaller (and prestigious) group were elected, around a 100 citizens or so. Neither was compulsory, citizens had to nominate themselves for both selection methods. Those that were chosen by lot usually had little expertise in the office they were working in... Also the Athenians ruled their empire with an iron fist. At least it has that in common with Western democracies (colonization).

Our modern democracy has much more in common with German tribalism. So please thank the Germanic people for our democracy. As for culture, a lot of the Greek culture was influenced by the Middle-East and Egypt. Astarte, the example you gave, was a Phoenician goddess for example... As for the actual music, thanks for raping my ears (can't argue about tastes though).

You know what the biggest irony of them all is? Us Greeks idealize our once glorious past and at the same deny the LGBT community the rights it deserves. How ignorant can you get?

They say Alexander the Great... I say Alexander the Gay. It's hilarious how a lot of Greeks still live in denial despite the evidence being so outspoken. The ancient Greeks considered a sexual relationship between two males to be ranked higher than a sexual relationship between a man and a woman. Of course gay marriage was not allowed in ancient Greece, but that's because marriage was intended to create offspring and for the aristocracy also to gain political benefit. Sex outside of the marriage was quite common, at least for the male population.