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method114 on 29 June 2015
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sabvre42 said:
method114 said:


Several states have done this and ended up losing money. Theres no point in setting up a system to save money only to have it cost you money.

 

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/02/26/3624447/tanf-drug-testing-states/

Welfare is only one form of income redistribution in the traditional sense. Its also a fraction of the overall government assistance.

Welfare in the traditional sense is literally cash handed to "low income" people. 
Next, and separate, you have Food Stamps which is split into EBT funds and at least in my state actual cash assistance.
Next, and again separate, you have rent assistance.
Next, and again separate, you have daycare assistance.
Next, and again separate, you have Medical Asisstance/ State sponsored medical programs.
Next, and again separate, you have education assistance such as the pell grant and state programs.

Lastly, and imo the most annoying of the programs,you have the EIC (earned income credit). People who literally pay ZERO income tax (they get it all back) get a check from the government for up to $5200. This is in addition to the Child credit, the Childcare credit, the Education credit, etc. We personally know a single mom of 2 kids that works as a CNA (certified nursing assistant). She gets all the government assistance I listed above - makes only $17,000 a year - but still recieved a ~$8000 tax return.


Yep I understand a lot of people hate these systems but I've seen them work and I've seen them help people get out of the hole they're in. My family was on them at one point and now my dad is making over 120k a year. My sister is making over 60k a year and I'm making over 50k a year once my contract is up I'll easily be able to find  a job making 60k+. We were children of welfare and now we help pay back into the system that helped us when we needed it.  Mitt Romney's family was also on Welfare and now look at how well they're doing. You always hear about the people who are abusing them system but you rarely hear about the people who used it for what it was inteded for. Helping people who are in a rough spot and just need some help until they can work themselves out of it.

It's a shame that people abuse the system but honestly these programs aren't the place we should be looking to get money back. We need to focus on these companies that are using tax loop holes to avoid paying anything. That will bring in more money then will know what to do with.