Death sentence. Yes or no?

[A_C_E]

archer9234 said:

A_C_E said:

Wouldn't that be hypocritical and corrupt of us to just go against our own moral beliefs and end a life due to someone else's actions? Sure they killed innocent people (which is the wrong thing to do) but we still know that we shouldn't kill other people. We are civilized (or clearing only some of us) enough to know that it is wrong to kill yet we break those moral grounds based on someone else's actions.

Your moral values are YOUR moral values. If your moral values are affected by someone else then you are letting their actions speak for your moral values, which, in this case, is to kill. Congratulations, you're no better than they are, you just think your supporting death for a just cause.

Works both ways. You can apply that to almost anything. Like say pests. You had to kill bugs or rats in your home. You did it, why? To stop the situation. A just cause, as you put it. You killed something. Are you going to argue it's not an important lifeform? Are you a horrible person now that you killed it? Your view is everything is one way or the other. There is no between. I see the argument not if the death penilty is wrong. I see it if it's justified to the case at hand. Not every case. I don't want the death penilty for some ass who robbed a store. Or if a kid was playing with a gun, and shot someone by mistake.

Now here lies the problem. These arguements that are in defense of the death penalty are so fallacious. If its not 'strawman' its 'two wrongs make a right', if its not 'two wrongs make a right' its 'appeal to emotion' and the list goes on. Your basing your arguement on the assumption that I don't feel the same way about all living things.

My arguement was not broadened to the whole schematic of life because that would also include bacteria that could kill us. You say people have to kill bugs or rats in your home to stop the situation, well...what situation are you stopping when a murderer is already in high security custody?

I'm not talking about pests, I am talking about human beings, separate discussion. But just to give you a bit of bite I will say that people kill bugs, pests, arachnids and the sort because they (naturally) morally justify it. When you don't morally justify an action but then turn around and do it yourself, your instantly a hypocrite or just flat out corrupted. All this due to outside variables that if people were able to see past their emotions would realize that their moral values are still the same and that the death penalty is not required in order to keep society safe.

Not saying you don't give out good points and not saying I myself don't fall into fallacy mode but I just cannot support a cause that goes against my moral value, and I'm not going to let someone elses actions dictate or shake my moral grounds.