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MikeG85 on 27 June 2015
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Mr Puggsly said:
MoHasanie said:

Well I can't disagree with any of your arguments. 

The $499 had Kinect with it but the $349 one comes with a free game in most places (MCC or AC Unity). 

Its worth a lot but it hardly makes a profit. If I was a big shareholder, I'd want Microsoft to stop making consoles. They can continue making games but should stopping making hardware. 

As far as I'm aware the X1, PS4, and WIi U come with games. I can get a PS4 right now for $399 with Batman:AK. Before that PS4 came with Last of Us. People mock X1 for throwing free games in, but free games with a PS4 seems to be ignored.

Xbox doesn't make a significant profit on its own. But you have to also consider the audience it has brought to MS and services MS has pushed on them. The reason people use MS's streaming video and music services is because of Xbox. Fans of Xbox are probably more likely to buy other MS products as well. The Xbox brand has made millions and millions of people care about MS products.

People consider X1 a failure yet it still may sell more units than a SNES (that was a popular machine, right?). Their investments in the Xbox brand don't just die with the consoles, MS can push those IPs on other products like Windows, mobile devices, Hololens, etc. So again, Xbox has been a worthwhile endeavor.

Why should MS stop making hardware? They have tons of money, they can take plenty of risks. I say MS should keep closing the gap of what is a game console versus PC. Bringing WIndows 10 to X1 is more of that.

Also, the industry doesn't benefit from MS leaving console gaming. An industry with only Sony pushing a core console is boring. More importantly, there wouldn't be much incentive for Sony to stay competitive. Prices would be higher, less money invested in IPs, less free games, etc. PS3 is what happened when Sony wasn't afraid of competition. X1 changed for the better because of competition.


Nail on head.

Two generations ago i had Xbox,ps2 and gamecube.last gen just a 360 and this gen just an Xbox one.

the difference being im now solely microsoft across all my devices.not just my console.

So from being initallly just an xbox owner, i now have Xbox 360,Xbox One,Windows Phone , (Nokia Lumia 920 ,waiting for the next flagship)Surface tablet,Microsoft Band and a laptop patientently waiting to upgrade to Windows 10.I'm well and truly in the Microsoft ecosystem.This is why Microsoft shouldnt and won't drop xbox ...without xbox i wouldnt have been opened to the microsoft ecosytem.(think i got windows phone intitally just to get extra achievements)

So i for one do not want Microsoft to stop making hardware devices....and things are only going to get better with windows 10.

For those saying Xbox doesnt make Microsoft the biggest profits...its more than just profits,its a gateway to all things Microsoft.

If they can make Windows 10 the killer it looks like its going to be, then everyone else better get prepared to be left in the dust.No company is the position that Microsoft is right now..