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Mr Puggsly said:

But the people that game on PC aren't necessarily the same audience as console gamers. which is why some games acheieve 5 - 20 million on consoles (combined) but do poor numbers on PC and vice versa. Steam machines for example are trying to make console gamers care about PC gaming.

Why are trying to prove to me X1 is a struggling console? I said it is. Read what I said again. However, I don't think its doing as poorly as some believe. Its not losing money like PS3, its not fading in obscurity like Vita, and it can still be successful without achieving 360 numbers.

By the way, saying it went from $499 to $349 is misleading. The $499 console had a Kinect in it. A Xbox with Kinect still cost $449-$500. Not pointing shows some bias in my opinion.

I don't think Xbox is a waste of time. MS's gaming division is worth billions and it has allowed MS to acquire an audience to push other products. Can you honestly say MS is better without Xbox? I doubt it and that's why Xbox is still around. Bottom line, the console gaming division is shrinking and MS should get serious about Windows gaming (Not PC gaming, Windows gaming). If Sony owned WIndows they would give it better support as well.

Well I can't disagree with any of your arguments. 

The $499 had Kinect with it but the $349 one comes with a free game in most places (MCC or AC Unity). 

Its worth a lot but it hardly makes a profit. If I was a big shareholder, I'd want Microsoft to stop making consoles. They can continue making games but should stopping making hardware. 



    

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