archer9234 said:
A_C_E said:
Nuvendil said:
The "two wrongs don't make a right" argument faces an obvious issue: all forms of punishment are actions that are wrong on their own without the justification of punishing someone for a criminal act. Is it not wrong to throw someone in a cage for decades? Is it not wrong to restrict their liberties? Is it not every form of punishment wrong outside the context of punishment? Justice is punishment for the evil, protection for the law abiding. The punishment should fit the crime. Oh and sentencing someone to multiple life sentences *is* killing them, essentially. Slowly.
As for this guy, not only has he been found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, he even admitted he did it. Under the law, that is sufficient for me to be comfortable with his sentence considering the heinousness of his crime. |
But your causing the issue of saying its wrong to lock someone away as if its on the same level as killing someone. It just depends on an individuals psycopathy levels. People are ok with convicted criminals being confined to a jail cell with access to books, workout equipment, jobs/duties and other rights. When it comes to ending another person's life is where I do not consider myself equal in respect to most people in USA.
In no way does this mans existence hinder anybody else outside of the confinements perimeter. What this means is that the only way for this subject to have affect on anyone would be emotionally/mentally. Human beings LOVE to jump to conclusions without reasonable thought and base their knowledge off an emotional standing. Epistemologically speaking this does not make any sense and therefore most likely will not lead to a sensible conclusion, which is why the death penalty still exists today and we kill people who kill other people. Throwing someone in jail is wrong on account of innocence, but when someone is guilty - of anything - top security confinement and life without parole should be the highest conviction served by a court.
Convicting a person then throwing them in jail is offering society the not the piece of mind but the actual assurance of safety. When you kill a convicted murderer you're mearly offering peace of mind; killing someone for peace of mind sounds kind of religious to me, sorry.
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Not just that. Death definally reassures that person can't do it again. Attempt a jail break. Can't infulence anyone that is gonna get released. Or try to get others to do their dirty work. And if you want to go deeper. Have a good time in jail. By abusing in-mates. Loving to rape people. Or having sex themselves.
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Of course death reassures that person can't do it again. Its relatively well known that alot of jails need tuning up and higher security. Nobody is denying that low-tier and mid-teir jails need more financing but that doesn't mean end another life just for piece of mind because that sounds too religious. People are plauding the fact that he is being put to death but they disagree with the deaths he caused before hand. Our society is so hypocritical when people complain about death then induce it themselves. You can argue the little things all you want but death is death. People just think that if society deems it necessary then poof...its necessary, without any clear cut thought put into it.
Just a bunch of emotional decisions by clouded individuals who can only see things through one perspective without acknowledging that another perspective is offering a much more futuristic and less childish rebuttal. The reason I use the word childish is because the death penalty won't be around forever, because through natural progression the rest of society will learn that there are better methods of justice than to just stoop to someone elses psycopthic levels of thought.
Also, it doesn't matter what they are doing in jail so long as the public are kept safe from criminals then that's all you need. It doesn't matter that some criminal is playing basketball for an hour a day, you're still going to be the exact same person you were yesterday. The **** does this guys life in jail have to do with anyone else outside of the jails perimeter? And please don't mention conspiracy theories.
