By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
McDonaldsGuy said:
Normchacho said:
McDonaldsGuy said:
What's so sad is that you guys could have a good argument when it comes to innocents and corruption in the system, but you focus on morality and the "prison is worse than death" myths instead. If you're trying to make me feel sorry for a guy who planted a rice cooker bomb in front of an 8 year old kid; or a guy who shot up babies and kids at a theater; or a guy who shot church goers based on race, it isn't going to work. My sympathy is 100% for the victims.

There's only one spree killer I have legit sympathy for and it was this guy named Charles, who was the perpetrator of the Texas school shooting in the 60s. Apparently he had a huge tumor in his head and literally could not control his behavior.

There should be a debate on death penalty reform, not "oh man it's so immoral to painlessly inject a guy who shot up a theater full of people trying to enjoy a Batman movie!"


Tell me where in my argument I said anything about prison being worse than death or said that I held any sympathy for a killer? Please, point out even one example.

My argument is, and has always been, that the death penalty doesn't provide any benefit to society, and because our legal system isn't 100% accurate it cannot be trusted with deciding if someone gets to live or die. I'll also add that I think our Justice system should be above emotional reactions such as revenge.

You don't seem to have much of a case against my argument, so I'm interested to see what you post next.

See I would have liked to focus on the innocents debate, but when you argue it's not beneficial to society it makes me roll my eyes. Why punish anyone then? It's not beneficial to society after all.

You're basically saying the feelings of those who lost a loved one shouldn't matter, and that's the exact type of mentality the killer's had. Just saying.


He did not say that last part.

Also, I truly believe that punishment should be used uniquely as a tool to reinvigurate securitym and there, sparingly.

I do see how you made the last correlation, however, lust for revenge is impulsif, dangerous, and must be restrained. (Revenge equally being one of the most common motives for murder.) Beyond that, the state is ofcourse responsible for taking care of the grieving of the victims entourage, which could be done with the funds of the criminal.

The human being is not inheritly evil, more is often source of these killings. The family of the killers, just as innocent as the one of the victim, will usually still have affection for the person, quite naturally blaming the events on other things, ( religion, etc...), and will be grieving no less.

there is more to a death sentence than the death itself, being in death line is to be the worst form of torture. Read "the last day of a convicted man" on that subject ( victor hugo)



Bet with PeH: 

I win if Arms sells over 700 000 units worldwide by the end of 2017.

Bet with WagnerPaiva:

 

I win if Emmanuel Macron wins the french presidential election May 7th 2017.