Breaking News: Boston bomber tells victims he's sorry as judge formally sentences him to death

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McDonaldsGuy said:

A_C_E said:

Nuvendil said:
The "two wrongs don't make a right" argument faces an obvious issue: all forms of punishment are actions that are wrong on their own without the justification of punishing someone for a criminal act. Is it not wrong to throw someone in a cage for decades? Is it not wrong to restrict their liberties? Is it not every form of punishment wrong outside the context of punishment? Justice is punishment for the evil, protection for the law abiding. The punishment should fit the crime. Oh and sentencing someone to multiple life sentences *is* killing them, essentially. Slowly.

As for this guy, not only has he been found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, he even admitted he did it. Under the law, that is sufficient for me to be comfortable with his sentence considering the heinousness of his crime.

But your causing the issue of saying its wrong to lock someone away as if its on the same level as killing someone. It just depends on an individuals psycopathy levels. People are ok with convicted criminals being confined to a jail cell with access to books, workout equipment, jobs/duties and other rights. When it comes to ending another person's life is where I do not consider myself equal in respect to most people in USA.

In no way does this mans existence hinder anybody else outside of the confinements perimeter. What this means is that the only way for this subject to have affect on anyone would be emotionally/mentally. Human beings LOVE to jump to conclusions without reasonable thought and base their knowledge off an emotional standing. Epistemologically speaking this does not make any sense and therefore most likely will not lead to a sensible conclusion, which is why the death penalty still exists today and we kill people who kill other people. Throwing someone in jail is wrong on account of innocence, but when someone is guilty - of anything - top security confinement and life without parole should be the highest conviction served by a court.

Convicting a person then throwing them in jail is offering society the not the piece of mind but the actual assurance of safety. When you kill a convicted murderer you're mearly offering peace of mind; killing someone for peace of mind sounds kind of religious to me, sorry.

We don't kill people who kill people.

We kill people who MURDER people and there is a massive distinction.

"Life without parole" is not even a punishment. If it was why do 98% of people who face the death penalty either appeal it, fight it, or plea bargain it? VERY, VERY few people who face the death penalty accept it.

Jeffrey Dahmer - avoided the death penalty

Richard Ramirez - used every appeal in the books to fight it

Ted Bundy -was a complete mess when he finally was facing the death penalty, apparently fainted

John Wayne Gacy - refused to even believe he was going to die

Charles Manson - thanks goodness every day the death penalty was appealed while he was in jail

Jodi Arias - begged not to have the death penalty

James Holmes (Batman shooter) - is fighting for his life not to face the death penalty

Boston Bomber - obviously trying to avoid it

How is this a punishment?

http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/2013/article/is-charles-manson-getting-married-20131120/19948/_original/1035x713-20131119-manson-x1800-1384973102.jpg - Charles Manson with a 26 year old girl. An 80 year old banging a 26 year old girl OMG THE PUNISHMENT

https://theodorerobertcowellnelsonbundy.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/ted-bundy-with-daughter-and-ugly-disgusting-woman-who-bore-her-the-cunt-who-abandoned-him-at-his-time-of-need-i-hope-she-contracted-an-std-and-led-a-miserable-life-after-ted-died-4.jpg - Ted Bundy was able to have a FRICKIN KID WHILE IN JAIL OMG TEH WORSE PUNISHMENT EVAH

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/08/article-0-1F79CA1400000578-520_470x423.jpg - video games and movies. The torture!

Also you forget the possibiltiy of them escaping, overcrowded prisons, a change in convcition, paperwork gone wrong, etc. etc.

When did I say any of those were punishments or even worthy of being called punishments? That wasn't my point...

Why are you so cynical about punishment? Why are so many people cynical about punishment? What benefits do you gain from others being punished? Will their punishment all of a sudden make time go backwards? Why does it matter if they are being punished at all other than for someone's peace of mind? Again, that sounds religious. The reason a jail/confinement should exist is to block public access to those who are dangerous. It doesn't help when people ask stupid ignorant questions based on their emotions. Punishment isn't going to bring back the people from the dead, its not logical to kill someone no matter the crime.

I am being 100% serious. The sky will still be blue, the sun will rise, you will still have a job/career, you will still be just as safe as you were the day before...you will be an unchanged person physically due to this mans existence or non-exsitence. No body gains any benefits from somebody elses punishment, but people gain benefits of safety when they are locked away for the rest of their life.

How do you know I forgot about them escaping? That's a separate issue that in the favor of your arguement needs improvement, yes, but that doesn't mean we begin to kill people.

It is such a young way of thinking to just go ahead and plan someones demise. I would say its inhumane to plan someones death but apparently its the norm around here.