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Kyuu said:
Headshot said:


You are seriously going to argue that a studio that has not worked on anything new for over a decade is better than Remedy? Max payne is just as good as ICO and SOC.


Having not released anything in a long time is kind of irrelevant. From an objective standpoint, Max Payne isn't in the same league as timeless classics like ICO or SoTC. Remedy's games don't have the passionate followers of ICO/SoTC, they hardly influneced anything, they didn't get nearly as many awards and weren't as well received, and you don't often see them listed in someone's top favorite games of all time.

As far as critical reception, awards, and influence go.. Team ICO's games are of top quality. Remedy's simply aren't.

Trying to push your opinion as fact is fine. Throwing in "facts" that are entirely wrong is not. Max Payne won a substantial amount of awards when it was released, substantially more than ICO and more comparable with SOTC and it had an extremely hardcore following up until Max Payne 3 was released. They weren't as well received? Are we really going to argue over 1-2 points on meta as to why ICO is a better studio? True, I don't see many people list the games in their favourite games of all time and there isn't that same hardcore following as there once was but downplaying it like this is insulting. I very rarely see ICO or SOTC listed in anyone's top 5 either.

This is a pointless argument anyway. If you don't think the original Max Payne games are of top quality then you're just showing clear bias but I guess we will know more when TLG releases.  I stand by my point that Remedy are just as good if not a better studio than Team ICO. Taking over a decade to release a game after their last is not exactly the definition of a world class studio even if there last two games were very good.