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midrange on 17 June 2015
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Soundwave said:
midrange said:

Sorry, but I have to disagree with most of these comparisons.

Graphics and gameplay wise, sunshine had more than mario 3d world. Sunshine incorporated puzzles, exploration, and platforming into one. 3d World just had platforming.

Pikmin was also way more content filled than splatoon was, and seems to have done its own unique thing in the puzzle genre. Splatoon is pretty much call off duty with cute graphics and paint. But regardless, they were 2 different genres so comparing them is just laughable.

Mario kart double dash even now holds tight controls and wait for it ........ double characters in a kart. Mario kart 8 literally did not do that because of the wii u hardware. Also, just try to compare the local multiplayer and just laugh at Mario kart 8's measly coin racing.

smash U may match melee with the casual audience and content for its time, but there is no denying that melee is what gives big life to the competitive smash bros community.

Zelda U may not even be exclusively on the wii u. And even if it was, the gamecube had 2 legend of zeldas (twilight princess and wind waker)

The wii u has good games, but there is no  denying that they have been severly limited by hardware and rushes to release early whereas the gamecube offered amazing visuals for its time and was plagued by an image problem, not a continuous drought of games problem.


Mario Sunshine's graphics underwhelmed even in 2002, no one was saying "wow! what a visual showcase!". Mario 64 looked great for 1996, Mario Sushine not so much by 2002. 

Mario Kart 8 (and every Mario Kart since) doesn't use the double rider gimmick from Double Dash, because it was something no one really gave two craps about. 

Pikmin was a short ass game by the way. Splatoon will grow over time. 

GameCube gets put on a pedestal on this forum because of the age demographic here, most people grew up with the GameCube and see it through rose colored glasses. I remember the actual reality for what it was. 

And actually selling only 22 million units when the system was $99.99 for half of its product cycle is fairly pathetic. Even the Wii U probably could match that or even exceed it by a bit if it was $150 (inflation adjusted) for the back end of its life cycle. 

Nintendo totally screwed up with Mario Sunshine (Mario on Vacation!), Wind Waker (cartoony Zelda!), and ditching the multiplayer blockbuster FPS formula (GoldenEye) for the solitary, bordering on depressing Metroid Prime experience and thinking that would take its place. 

Mario sunshine was not the end all be all of graphics, but it did demonstrate an advancement in water physics, which is something to 3d worlds nothing. To top it off, the game had greater exploration and puzzle segments.

In terms of mario kart and the double dash feature read this:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/03/mario-kart-double-dashs-dual-racers-havent-been-forgotten

clearly they thought double riders was a cool mechanic, but surprise surprise, the wii u processing power held back that development (among other things)

Again, pikmin is a puzzle/exploration game, and splatoon is cod with cute graphics. To compare the 2 would be very hard to do. If you do want to make a comparison, compare pikmin to the other puzzle games at the time, and splatoon to other shooters of its time, and you will see how short on content splatoon really is (even with all the dlc factored in).

Wind waker and its "cartoon" style is still considered one of the best zeldas, the wii u doesn't even have a zelda game yet. Sunshine at the very least was a good attempt at a 3d mario game, the best the wii u has is the 2.5d 3d world.

The gamecube get put on a pedestal because it had the games to back it up. Don't believe me, tell me which system had the better hardware for cheaper at the time? And while your at it, please tell me which game ended up with 2 metroid primes, an f-zero game, semi-decent 3rd party, Animal crossing, 2 zelda games, luigi's mansion, and paper mario, among others

The wii u has good games, but let's not suddenly pretend that it deserves to be placed higher than past Nintendo consoles when the wii u library clearly seems to be the weakest out of all Nintendo consoles.