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Shadow1980 said: I can't comment on FFVIII and FFXII as I never got around to playing them, but Terra and Celes were the only ones who could learn magic normally in FFVI. The rest had to be equipped with magicite, which had to be earned from Espers, and wasn't exactly common. This didn't happen until well into the game, whereas magic materia was availabe right away in FFVII (Cloud is initially equipped with both Ice and Lightning materia, and Fire materia can be purchased in Sector 7, the first "town" in Midgar) and the game gave most of its common materia away like candy. Magicite was not functionally the same as Materia, even though the end result (being able to turn most characters into fighter-mages) is the same.
That's why I hope that in the FFVII remake the materia system is tweaked to where each character is specialized with certain types of materia and otherwise provides incentive to rotate party members by making them more distinct in terms of abilities. |
I can see that with FF6, sorry it's been a while since I played it however you can make any character into any role by the end based on the magic they learn, in FF7, the magic they learn is dependent on the Materia you give them. In FF8 the role they play is dependent on how you junction magic. While in FF6, 7 and 8, all character were still individual, they had their own specials/limits, some had extra build in powers (so Barret with Long Range guns or Quistis Blue Magic only she learned).
But on the last bit, no, that changes the gameplay, it means in certain times you may be left short because you had the wrong character in your party. FF7 has a lot of times when characters are not in your party, when they split up, go crazy, so characters need a certain amount of 'clean slate' to build them correctly.
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"What cliffhanger?" Did you not play the same game I did? The Lifestream enveloped Meteor after the Holy Materia wasn't enough, the screen went white, then we go to credits. Post-credits we have a 500-year time skip. The ending was very sudden and very ambiguous, but the idea that Holy & the Lifestream didn't just destroy Meteor but also wiped out humanity (which Meteor would have done anyway) seems to be a betrayal of everything the heroes, including Aeris, fought for the entire game. If Holy was going to kill everybody anyway, then why bother stopping Meteor? Everybody's dead either way. Also, Red was with the rest of the heroes at the time, so if all the humans on the airship died from Holy should Red have died in the crash that would have inevitably followed? And besides, that little time skip epilogue showed what looks to be a couple of plumes of smoke rising from the ruins of Midgar. Maybe Midgar had been reclaimed by nature after 500 years—it had been abandoned after it was devastated by Meteor, and may have never been rebuilt "for reasons"—, but who's to say humanity isn't still around then? I honestly don't think FFVII had the nihilistic "kill 'em all" ending some people think (an ending that's no longer canon anyway), but the sudden ending to FFVII was a weak point, and I'd like to see a more proper ending this time. |
Yep, you are ignoring a lot of back end plot mentioned in the game. Bugenhagen explains that the Holy Materia is ancient and special, only works when the planet is in danger. Sephiroth was stopping it from working, the heroes role was to free it. Holy and the Lifestream did stop the meteor but part of the Holy magic is to defend the planet, and the planet does not care if humans exist. It's better without them (much like our own).
The heroes stood for the protection of the planet from the first mission to the end, that was their goal and they achieved it perfectly.
I never said it was instant, just that Holy would remove them, when Advent Children came out saying that people had a weird desease, I hoped that was the desease created by the planet and holy to wipe out the species but they cured it in the film.
The ending was perfect, my friend. It is the proper ending.
EDIT: What do you want? For the team to have a party? High fiving each other and Tifa and Cloud to finally get it on?
Hmm, pie.
