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JWeinCom on 15 June 2015
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sundin13 said:
JWeinCom said:

There were babies on the Earth at the time.  Right?  I mean, I know it's not real or anything, but we have to assume that babies exist in the fictional world.  There were also lots of animals.  Noah took two of each, which meant the others had to die.  Not only did the animals and babies have to die, but they had to do so in an incredibly agonizing way.  Couldn't he have just had them all die in their sleep?  Or, you know, not kill them at all.  

You said that god hates sin, yes?  So there were people who were sinful and he drowned them all.  I'd say that would be an act that expressed his hatred.  

First of all, no one appreciates your "its not real" statements. Pretty sure everybody here already knows that you don't believe in God, and even if they didn't, there are other ways to convey that than being rude and belittling people's faith.

Anyways, if God were to not kill them, the world would go on in sin, and no one would get into heaven which is considered the greatest punishment. Its not difficult to see how this could be considered an act of mercy and love, giving the beings he created a second chance. Feel free to not see it that way, but you aren't going to prove anything as there isn't really any basis in fact here...

I was under the impression that Noah's Flood was not viewed as literal, even by most Christians.  If anyone actually believes that one family literally created an ark, literally filled it with two of each animals, the earth was literally flooded, and the water literally disappeared and left the water cycle... Well then I am happy to belittle that idea, whether or not people appreciate it.  I mean, if people take the story metaphorically I can respectuflly disagree, but if people take it literally, I'm not going to lie and say I don't find that ridiculous.

Yes.  It is very hard to believe that killing innocent people and animals is anything good.  Even IF this was necessary, could god not have done it in such a way to avoid suffering?  Was it necessary to drown animals?  Newborns?  

Of course, this is interpretation of literature, so there is no fact, but I believe that killing nearly every living thing is pretty much the most hateful thing that can be done.