the_dengle said:
I haven't made any claims that need to be proven. You claim a thing, and I doubt that claim. If you want me to believe your claim, you'll have to prove it to me. I don't care whether or not you think I'm right, you're the one attempting to convince me to change my stance. Anybody could come in here and say the Vita is only 5x more powerful than the 3DS, or that it is 50x more powerful, and I would have no more reason to believe them than I have to believe you. You're saying that the difference between the Vita and 3DS is greater than the difference between the PS4 and PS3, so I stand by my comment that that would be an enormous difference in power. A difference I don't see represented in the kind of games they can run -- even factoring 3x the resolution and higher-quality textures and lighting, I don't see "Xenoblade Chronicles times ten" on the Vita. |
I substantiated my claims, and you just said, "not uh, I doubt it." The facts are that the Vita has a theoretical output of 52 Gflops. The 3DS's gpu is something like 4-6 Gflops. That means the computational power of the Vita's GPU is, indeed, capable of 10 times more Gflops than the 3DS. Gflops are a perfectly fine measurement for the performance differences between consoles, at least relationally. You were contesting that in the same way somebody contests any empirical measurement, "you can't prove, therefore I don't believe it." You are indeed making a positive claim though, by stating, " I doubt the Vita is nine times more powerful than the 3DS" a claim which you can't support with facts or evidence. Yet when I present facts, you don't even try to dispute them. Also, don't humor yourself too much, I wasn't trying to get you to change your position, I was stating why your position was more likely not going to happen for the instance of a debate on a public forum in which there are dozens of people reading our posts. It is for the reader that I defend OUR position (the people in this thread stating Nintendo in response to the OP) who you seemed so sure were wrong.
I think it is important to not misrepresent my position: the percentage difference of the Vita and 3DS is greater than the percentage difference between the PS4 and PS3. This is not the same thing as the absolute difference.
Absolute Difference: 52 Gflops - 6 Gflops = 46 Gflops.
Percentage Difference: 52/6 = + 866%
Absolute Difference: 1.8 Tflops - .230 Tflops = 1.57 Tflops
Percentage Difference: = 1.8 Tflops/.23 Tflops = + 780%
What does Xenoblade Chronicles times ten even mean? That isn't how graphics work, anyway. There is a thing called the law of dimishing returns. In this context, it states that the marginal change in graphics requires an increasing marginal change in computing power with each advancement. It is precisely why the PS4 and XBO's GPUs only have 5-8 times more the computing power than their predecessors, while said predecessors have 12 times and 32 times the computing power of their consequent predecessors. This doesn't mean the games look 12, 32, 5 or 8 times better (if we can even quantify such a thing.)
