WTF! Final Fantasy XV Story Is Not Final Fantasy Versus XIII

[AbbathTheGrim]

thatguymarco said:

AbbathTheGrim said:

That sounds nice. If that were to happen I can already imagine some follow up to the little we know from XV. I guess Luna must die in FFXV. That way Noctis can be all sad in XV-2 (like in the trailers) with a broken heart beggin to be restored by a savior that comes in the form of Stella. Then Noctis learns he needs to fight Stella (because in the trailer for VsXIII she is like in an opposing side to him). Then Noctis would be like: "Shit, I just fell in love with this chick after all my heartbreak and now she's my enemy... fuck my life!"

I think this could be possible. Some people here have said that Nomura may have been a trainwreck as director and that is why he was removed from FF, but if he really was a mess then I suppose he wouldn't even be fit for KH, then why did they let him work there?

I don't see Stella coming back, ever, not without some awkward and forced plot-twist or plot-convenience, as far as we know, she was rewritten as Luna, and well, if they got to the trouble of rewriting a whole character, I must assume that her Noctis-like powers were removed, maybe she was too intrusive of a character in the story so they decided that removing her was the way to go to streamline development, that, OR they know that Internet feminists would get make a big fucking ordeal out off seeing Noctis beating the shit out a woman, and decided to go the safe route and make her into a strong independent woman who don't need no man that does little in the story, but that doesn't pose a threat to the main cast, either way, it fucking sucks, but, I'm rambling now.

Well, as far as Nomura being removed from the director's seat, I think that most of it has to do with the fact that he announced KH3 too early, he directed both games for more than a year, and I can see that kind of pressure leading Nomura to be an unfocused mess, but I don't think that's the main reason he was removed, I think that his vision of the game was either too ambitious or controvertial for Squeenix to allow development to go through, and decided to get someone easier to manipulate to follow orders to direct the project (Tabata), although, I'l give Nomura-haters something, it was a stupid decision to announce KH3 that early, it just led for development of both games to be slowed down, since, both games ended changing fucking ENGINES during development, that must mean that not that much had been done for either of them, KH3 more so than FFXV, although, in FFXV's case, it may be the fact that the "Ebony" engine used in the E3 2013 trailer was too good for the consoles to run it, since the trailer looks fucking amazing and seems to have quite the work done on it. I think that Nomura was removed more out of a necessity, rather than outcry from the company, Squeenix just needed to get the games moving and having one man behind both of their most anticipated tittles was gonna affect dev speed, combine that and the fact that the man's vision was too good to be true (which, by the way, wouldn't had been the case if Nomura won his argument about keeping FFvsXIII as a 7th gen game and kept working on the 2011 build of the game, hell, the game could've been completed by now) and it's easy to see why Squeenix removed him, the game needed to come out as fast as possible, be appealing for most people and a markatable beast, and it needed to not overblow its (ridiculous) budget, and that was something that a NEXT GEN Versus XIII wasn't gonna do for them.

Also, Nomura is still working in KH since nobody other than him has ever touched that series, even the co-director would be lost without the creative soul to make KH3 the best game it could possibly be...

...although, I must agree with everyone, Nomura's skill as a writter has gotten way, way worse. Birth by Sleep had me in tears, of boredom. Sorry for the long-ass reply by the way.

Stella was scratched and Luna came in her place:

http://www.takuchat.com/final-fantasy-versus-13-was-not-changed-it-was-canned/

What I wrote was me being creative at reconciling your idea of giving VsXIII a chance as a sequel of FFXV. I don't know much of Luna but if she is similar to Stella then it would be easier for Noctis to fall in love with her in a sequel as she would remind him of his lost love. I am just entertaining this idea of yours.

That is what I believe, that Square told us the truth and Nomura was given a sole project of KH to speed things up. I believe that someone could take on the Kingdom Hearts franchise and make a worthy sequel, just like we have new writers and directors taking the reigns for new entries/sequels to films with huge universes like comic book franchises and Star Wars for example.