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Kowan on 06 June 2015
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taus90 said:
Kowan said:


What you are telling me right now are all VAGUE details about her. You did not even answer my question. All the details about her that have been released only gives us an initial impression of what her character will be like but ultimately not what she really is and what her role is in the story of the game. You clearly don't know that yourself. I have watched all available trailers since announcement so please don't tell me things I already know. THey have shown little of Luna and yet you already think she is a weak female character when Stella herself showed similar traits on some of her footage. Just because they showed her with magical powers and rapier confidently facing Noctis does not mean that she is all that.  I wonder how shocked you guys will be when they suddenly show Luna conjuring magic swords and fighting alongside Noctis. lol. They already showed her walking alone, injured in the bonus scenes of Episode Duscae. That may mean she fought her way out or she just sneaked out and barely made it out alive. Just because one follows every detail Square released for the game does NOT mean you will be able to know everything about both games. I mean seriously, THE GAMES HAVE NOT BEEN RELEASED YET.  Claiming you know about the entirety of the story and the characters just makes you look kind of ridiculous. EVen more so using Cosplay as proof of knowledge of who the character is. That's kinda laughable. Most people cosplay based on what they see and not much of what they know about the character(no offense to cosplayers but much of that is true). I mean people were already cosplaying Noctis just based on the first versus trailer. Character design can only tell so much, it does not and WILL NEVER tell us who they really are. That's for the narrative to tell us. It can even fool us into thinking who the character really is. Just look at how many people think Noctis is an emo character just because of his looks when in reality he is an egotistic, careless, prince character(well at least from how he was represented in all the versus trailers and how NOmura described him). Tabata seemed to have made him more serious and more like Squall in the recent XV footages and demo.

I'm not saying you are completely wrong but please stop acting as if you've already read the whole story or played both versions of the game.

All i am asking is atleast be constructive in your argument or stoping beating around by assuming whatever I said is a filament of my "Vague" Imagination. whatever I said was published by Nomora and his team. And do you even know how movies and narrative driven games promotional pitch works? you are introduced to the characters, then the plot. And they do it by releasing teasers and trailers to peak the interest of potential audience. Even to tone it down further for you to understand, how about this, creators of jurrasic world, comes out and say we are excluding the new dinosaur coz its not fitting into story of the movie... would that be ok for you?? also remember we dont know anything about the new dinosaur, only that he is will be one of the antogonist.

if you go on defending and i know what will be your answer, just remember. Stella was opposite to noctis, was the first enemy introduced and has been described by Nojima as an unfortunate enemy to the prince.

Promotional Pitch Material : While the two are very fond of each other, their circumstances dictate that they can't be friends. Instead, the two square off as enemies, even though they wish this were not the case. Perhaps they can resolve their differences throughout the duration of the story.

So Stella was only antogonist introduced in versus.

On a side note: one of my friend who is a huge final fantasy nerd just told me this, that he believes stella is still there but she is been split into two, one is Luna, noctis love interest other might be the antogonist version of stella, and they might be twins thats why the similarity.. and he came up with this theory after watching the latest interview, were developer denied to comment on if stella is dead.. they kept insisting they have introduced the new character just coz the vision for stella didnt fit into the story. (would be cool if true) but why would they hide it.

coming back to topic.. there were many other reasons as to why ffvsXIII is dead. Battle system, character switching, combat system, most of battle inside the insomnia city have been gone. since the demo released or Tabata took over the driver seat. Stella exclusion and medling with the story was the final nail in the coffin

P.S. If it was the Last Guardian instead of versus, then i would have agreed with your argument.

I do not get your first sentence. Sorry there are words in there that needs to be corrected to form a coherent sentence. Anyway, I wasn't just talking about your "imagination" I'm talking about details released by Square. They are vague and are just meant for first impressions of the character Stella, not something that would explain who she is and most importantly what she really is meant to do.  Please stop underedtimating other people just because you have different opinions. For someone who cliams to know more about promotional tactics, you seem to be forgeting what a teaser, a trailer and what introductions mean. They are never used to completely tell you about anything. That's the entire reason they're called teasers or trailers. They are purely meant to, like you said, introduce you to something, and not tell you everything.  Also i fail to understand your example for Jurassic World. They are not even one bit similar. I think this is where you are confused. Versus XIII and everything released for it are mere footages of an unfinished and barely explained product. Jurassic World(the final version they are showing) on the other hand shows glimpses of a complete story with an important character that is vital to the whole film, as in without it the film would never work.  If they showed a trailer of the first concept of Jurassic World then sure that could be something similar to Versus and Stella. FYI, on of the very first concept done for Jurassic World they planned to have a human-dino hybrid as opposed to the Indominus rex. Now if they would have taken that out(the human dino hybrid) then that would be the Stella of Jurassic World. 

Also Stella was seemingly the first antagonist introduced in Versus but she is not the only one. Have you forgotten the female Dragoon and the hooded conjurer of swords? The hooded character was shown exactly  the same time as Stella. 

For theories on Stella's exclusion, I am thinking that Luna might be the exact same character as Stella but instead of having a conflict with Noctis(which I'm pretty sure would have not lasted long in versus anyway) Tabata most likely removed the said conflict and made her character purely on Noctis' side. Luna will most likely have the same powers as Stella. Also remember the bonus scene shown in Episode Duscae? They mention both Noctis and Lunafreya dead, as in they found their dead bodies. Now purely based on the images shown with this, how could that be when Luna herself is shown walking away from the city?So there must be another body found that looks exactly like Luna. Unless of course that is not Luna they showed.

Anyway, I still see much of versus in XV, even in the battle system. Character switching is an unfortunate exclusion and some of what Tabata mentioned that is impossible for them to make sounded more like a lazy excuse than a legitimate reason.