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midrange said:
Miyamotoo said:

-Like I already said, Splatoon cause very good splash among Nintendo community and Wii U owners, even with meta score of 81. We already know that lack of initial content is reason why this game dont have higher score, and we also know more free content is coming. You can already see what splash cause here of forum and how many Wii U owners already buyed game or plan to buy.

-Shipped numbers are around 150-200k, We know game in Japan was sold around 125k only first day, on second day Nintendo already stated that game is sold out. Because of all that, Digital sales are probably very good, like I said 150k+ for physical sale and around 200k with digital sale in first week in Japan alone. We will know tomorrow for sure only physical sale numbers. If look inital information that we have like Japand, UK, Amazon spots...game is selling very good, also you can see how many Wii U owners here on forum already buyed game.

-Why Splatoon need to competing against already established nintendo ip!? Splatoon is not competing against another Nintendo game, Splatoon is game that targeting Mario Kart and Smash Bros. owners, it so simply. You talking about about people who will buy Wii U , what about 10m current owners. You cant compare 3rd party games with true Nintendo game that is very appealing for Nintendo fans on Nintendo console. You don't realise, and anyone who already played Splatoon will tell you this, Splatoon is becoming for online shooters what Mario Kart is for racers or Smash Bros. for fighting games, thats is Nintendo plan too and that why they gave this game marketing on a scale of Mario Kart. All that and free content till whole summer will gave this game very good legs.

-Lack of some content is not half finished game.

-Relly!? You can see here on forum how many Wii U owners think about Splatoon like a indie/budget game, I say maybe around 10-15%.

 

Evan Bayonetta 2, game that isn't appealing for Nintendo fans and Wii U owners, game with small marketing will LT probably be around 1m, and you think Splatoon game that is very appealing to Nintendo fans and Wii U owners, game that targeting Mario Kart and Smash Bros. audience and have very big push from Nintendo, will sell only 800k-900k LT!?

If you  are referring within the Nintendo community, yes Splatoon has made a splash. I was referring to the overall gaming community however.

I am still confident in my sales prediction for the first week, but I won't go any further since we need actual sales to end this argument.

splatoon is competing against other nintendo ip because people have a very limited amount of money to spend. Getting smash bros, mario kart, super mario 3d world and splatoon is around $220-$240, so if they had to cut one out, I would venture to guess that they would cut out splatoon simple. Splatoon will get sales, but later on in its life, it will dwindle like pikmin 3 did (by the idea of low priority compared to other nintendo games).

When splatoon releases fully in fall, it will have twice the content it does now, no it is not releasing as a half-finished game, but it definitely is releasing as a gimped game.

The people on this site isn't really indicative of the video game market. Not only are the people here passionate and informed about video games, I would venture to guess that most people on this site are nintendo centric. So yes, I do still believe the majority of people view splatoon as an indie/ budget game.

Bayonetta will end up with zombiu sales in the end, not 1 million (sadly :( ), and I do think splatoon will beat that, but only to go onto pikmin 3 sales (which should be around 800k-900k). I can't say much about digital sales though since I do not have a benchmark or numbers for comparison

-Well this game is selling only on Nintendo console so splash in Nintendo community is crucial.

"splatoon is competing against other nintendo ip because people have a very limited amount of money to spend."

-Sorry but I think that argument is just stupid, because that can be said for any game at world on any system. And why you thinking like a Wii U owners dont have any of those games already purchased: Smash Bros. - 3.65m, Mario Kart - 5.1m, Super Mario 3D World - 4.1m, all that on instal base of around 10m. Like I said, Pikmin is very specific title (it's RTS), didn't have big marketing and had much smaller user base when was launch, Splatoon is targeting much wider audience, Nintendo is pushing really hard and is releasing on much bigger instal base, and yet you think it will perform similar.

-Nintendo already released new map and new weapon, like this they will keep hype about game whole summer that why it will have very good legs.

-So you say that informed Nintendo centric people don't think about Splatoon like indie/budget game!? That's whole point, Wii U owners and informed Nintendo fans don't think about Splatoon like a indie/budget game, because they will buying game not PS4/Xbox One owners.

-If we look VGC numbers, Bayonetta is curently on 0.67m, Zombi U on 0.85m and Pikmin 3 on 0.9m, this all numbers are without digital sales. Zombi U will pass 1m, I think Pikmin 3 with digital sales already passed 1m, and Bayonetta 2 will be around 1m LT. And you think Splatoon, game that have much more bigger potential for much better sale (strong marketing, much more appealing for wider audience, bigger instal base...) will not pass 1m LT!?