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bdbdbd said:
libellule said:
bdbdbd said:
libellule said:
Cheaper price allowing people to get it IF they want it (and they want!)

so why do they want it ?

- Wiimote special control
- OFFLINE party games allowing you to play with ur familly and ur girl friend (Wiisport)
- Ninty games appealing to Ninty fans (SMG)
- special games like Wiifit that can create "hype" like iphone/ipod and appeal to non-gamer

NOTE: funny to see the best selling console (Wii) is not able to inhibit PS3/Xbox360 sales when the PSX shutdowned the Saturn/N64 sales and the PS2 killed the GC/Xbox sales : it is selling to people that are not interest by the "classic" saloon console that, usually, appeal to male teenagers.

 

So, when 360 basically stopped selling right after E3 06

==> u assume Wii reduced Xbox360 sales before it was released ? ... I doubt about it.
Sometimes sales just slowdown because no games are released, summer.

or PS3 selling at much lower rate than its predecessor, it's suddenly because of what?

==> In NA : Xbox360 says "hi !"

In Japan : Wii say "hi !"

PAL : PS3 sales are about PS2 sales (I think)

so yes, PS3 selling slower than PS2 that is obvious. But PS2 was 1st console of past-gen sales while PS3 is only third (later second). I completely agree that competition (Wii360) is reducing PS3 sales.

People getting bored in gaming (which would prove Nintendos strategy correct, since the previous market wouldn't exist anymore)?

==> I believe it is true for Japan.. But not true in PAL/NA. I agree with you.

People don't want HD consoles because they don't own HDTV sets (again Nintendos strategy would be correct)?

==> U can still play PS360 without HD console. Again , I agree with you.

I really can't see how Wii wouldn't have killed the sales of the others, especially when competition isn't selling anywhere close to expectations and how Wii wouldn't have affected to slow sales, unless the market really crashed.

==> I believe you misunderstood me.

I m not saying Wii is not affecting PS360 sales. I m just saying PS360 are selling WAY too well for 2nd and 3rd console. DC was completely killed by PS2, GC/Xbox were greatly inhibited. In fact, all the focus was on the PS2 and only on the PS2.

Now, the Wii is selling like hot cake since her release but in the same time (OUTSIDE of JAPAN), PS360 are selling VERY WELL despite their price (400$PS3, compared to the 250$ Wii). It is like the 2 consoles (Wii vs PS360) are selling to 2 different big markets allowing them to both surviving.

Just look at this : PS3, the third console is dramatically increasing her sales despite her slow start (slow start in console world = DEATH) :

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=GC&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=XB&reg3=All&weeks=400

At the contrary, GC/Xbox have reduced their sales progressviely with the time.

Same can be said for the Xbox360 :

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=GC&reg1=All&cons2=X360&reg2=All&cons3=XB&reg3=All&weeks=400

It means ALL the console are selling better than the last gen 1st/2nd/3rd console counterpart.

WHY ?

Because Wii expanded the market to casuals and non-gamers since DAY 1. This allow PS360 to focus on the western hardcore gamers market and to continue to sell very well despite their higher price.

For me, This gen is NOT like last gen. Definitively.

 


 

So, how can you say that PS2 did kill GC and XBox? What if it was the lack of games? OK, so 360 says hi in NA, but despite it saying hi, Wii sells the best, and apparently people are getting PS360:s since Wii is so hard to find. In PAL regions, i don't think PS3 is selling anywhere near PS2 levels, since if i recall TheSources "50 million" article, Wii is actually trailing behind PS2 by quite a margin and considering PS3 trailing behind Wii. So, if the market crashed, then what all the fanboys are complaining about? If Wii would have been similar console to PS360, the 3 would have split the number of consoles PS3 and 360 have sold combined by 3 of them. So, Wii is nothing but good for the industry anyway you want to look at it. PS2 was the second in the market, just like PS3, and PS2 killed Dreamcasts sales before PS2 launch.

 The problem this generation is the Wii is SOOOO different in all respects from the other two consoles (controller, GAMES, price, technology) that it is infinitely more likely that consumers will own the Wii + One other console, than it was in the previous generation. In the previous generation the PS2 had almost all the games that you could play on it rivals, making the owning of 2 consoles almost stupid.

This time round there are so many differences between the Wii and the HD consoles that owning 2 consoles won't be rare for gamers.... (and don't anyone tell me there is not a SINGLE game on other consoles you are not curious about because you are lying)



PSN ID: T_Gears

End of 2009 ltd sales:

Wii = 67-68m

X360 = 38-39m

PS3 = 34-35m

Prediction: The PS3 will surpass the 360 on weekly sales after it drops to $299 on all regular weeks (no big releases).