| MikeRox said:
Rockstar/Remedy stated they couldn't get the game running up to snuff on GCN and so that version of the game got axed. In the case of GTA, you've also got the capacity limitations of the discs. Can you really break a game like GTA into multiple discs easily? Plus it has the added development costs. By that point in the systems life, it wasn't really worthwhile doing. While the Xbox was basically a PC in a box with it's Pentium 3 Processor and Ge Force GPU making that port much more straight forward. |
Im farily confident there was nothing PS2 had on GC except disc size. IIRC GCN had more/faster ram, better cpu and gpu. Heck some argued it was more efficient than OG xbox (resi 4 was arguably best looking game of that gen). You're right about the disc limitations for certain games, but for a game like say, Vice City, a big chunk of that is audio files which could be further compressed or degraded in quality, and even have some tracks/stations removed if nec.
| Soundwave said: Third parties just don't need Nintendo. Now that there are two better alternatives for them in Sony and MS, Nintendo just isn't needed. Even during the GameCube days though I remember that GCN multi-plats would often sell the worst by a fair margin versus the PS2 and XBox versions even when Nintendo did things like get Mario characters into games like NBA Street and SSX and EA emphasied the GameCube logo in TV marketing for those ads, those games still tanked on the GameCube. The real issue is that Sony/MS took away the gamer who bought a lot of of third party games on the NES/SNES ... that gamer grew frustrated with Nintendo during the N64 days and jumped ship to Sony (and maybe subsequently MS), but the Nintendo audience that bought a lot of third party games was already on the Sony bandwagon by the time 2000/2001 rolled around and Nintendo's never really gotten them back. They've just gotten stuck with a core Nintendo fanbase that buys primarily Nintendo games on their Nintendo consoles. |
Very true, MS just cleaned up the scraps that was already taken mostly by PS. But to your point about using ninty chars. in some 3rd party games, there was ONE GC gm that performed the best of the 3, and that was the Soul calibur w/Link.
My thing is, why not try to rectify the situation, don't take gamers for granted and don't flat out give up any segment of the game community. Nintendo has lost a lot of respect for no longer "competing". this passive aggressive, we're not really competing nonsense has to come to an end other wise Ninty will end up bullied out of business and become 3rd party/toy maker.
| Darwinianevolution said:
Third parties are difficult to satisfy at this point, at least in my opinion. Big western developers aren't interested in Nintendo consoles because most of their games don't sell as well (military shooters in particular). If this is because they expect to sell PS360 numbers on the device and moderate sales are not interesting for them (GTA V not being on the WiiU when it's everywhere else), or the Nintendo crowd don't care about those genres, I don't know. One thing I don't beliebe it's power as an excuse. I firmly believe that, if power was one of the main problems, the WiiU would have gotten (and still get) all those crossgen games: Destiny, most Telltale games, GTA V, FarCry 4, Wolfenstein TNO... But they aren't coming. Wii didn't get AAA titles from western studios, but you can't say they didn't support the system, and the same with the DS. Also, western developers never were really big on the handheld market, so when mobile appeared, they quickly abandoned it.
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Agreed with unquoted parts for sure, but for the 3rd parties not interested in Nintendo part, its up to NINTENDO to create enticing HW, that ensures the audience will get power and features like/better than the competition. I hold the theory of "if you build it, they will come". And nintendo simply hasn't been building it lately. Its like, a straight man being accused of being...you know...and not defend himself! Very suspect. Nintendo did react in the sega genesis war(fixed the blood issue in mortal kombat) but they got tired of that fight it seemed and just accepted the kiddie label, when they were actually very balanced all around during SNES and i'd guess NES days as well.
