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Aeolus451 said:
Arlo said:
Every individual should be charged based on their crime--not based on what categories we might put them in. Using such a category as a basis for conviction just brings bias and political pressure into the mix.

Aren't they already doing that? It's not working.

Punishments need to be harsher for gangs to discourage people from joining a gang or staying in one. 

yeah sure...   that why you have so many gangs in northern europe and so little in the US...

harsh punishment creates the gangs in the first place, why should i steal a car radio or sell pirated movies from my van if i get allmost the same punishment as someone who robs a bank? 3 strike laws, harsh punishment for minor crimes and bad prisons create gangs...