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Zekkyou on 20 May 2015
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Samus Aran said:
Zekkyou said:

*shrugs* I disagree. At no point while playing TLOU did i think "darn, i wish this was 60fps". Heck, on several occasions i forgot to turn 60fps back on in TLOU:R while using 30fps in photomode. Once i get passed the initial change (which admittedly feels rather dramatic), it's stops being particularly relevant too me in such games. I'm not the only one to forget about the frame-rate in TLOU:R either :p

I never, however, stopped noticing the rich environments, the detailed in-game character models and interactions, or how the game maintains a high level of detail even in the more open areas. You don't have to agree, as i said it's subjective, but personally i put more value in that than 60fps in this context. I wouldn't have minded a slight visual downgrades for a more stable frame-rate on the PS3 version, but outside of the school bus area, the drops were never much of an issue for me. They probably would have been in Uncharted, but not in TLOU.

I should note that i wasn't saying a 30fps game should excel in all the things i listed, nor that a 60fps game can't excel at any of them. Having twice as long to render each frame simply gives you a lot more freedom in how you approach such things (which should go without saying, really).

As for Battlefront, from my understanding the trailer was pre-rendered. The final game will no doubt look fairly nice (BF4 did, outside of its IQ), but it won't look like that.

TLOU isn't a 30 fps game, it frequently dips to low 20s. The AI in this game constantly breaks the immersion. And the way the Clicker works doesn't even make sense. It's supposed to see like a bat, but then it would be able to see you even when you stand still. There's also very little variety in terms of enemies. There's no excuse for this game having the framerate it had. During calm moments the framerate doesn't matter that much, but when you're in an action scene it's incredibly annoying.

Metroid Prime 2 had all these things and still ran at 60 fps.

Star Wars Battlefront III is an online third person shooter, 60 fps is the right way to go. I'm sure the game's environments will be richer than TLOU: R.

TLOU being 60fps wouldn't have improved the AI though, would it? It'd likely have simply degrading the quality of the stuff that did impress me (and potentially made the AI worse). I value that stuff more than 60fps. It's as simple as that. And as i said, being 30fps doesn't ensure you excel at everything, it just gives you more freedom. As for the drips, i already covered that: "I wouldn't have minded a slight visual downgrades for a more stable frame-rate on the PS3 version, but outside of the school bus area, the drops were never much of an issue for me. They probably would have been in Uncharted, but not in TLOU."

As for the last point, that wouldn't be a particularly difficult to achieve. TLOU:R looks fairly nice, but it's ultimately still a PS3 game. There are other 1080p/60fps PS4 games that surpass its environment detail already (such as Metro: Redux).