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sabvre42 on 14 May 2015
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Ka-pi96 said:
sabvre42 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Except the existance of MMOs with no subscription but also no initial fee to pay debunks that entirely.

If they can make money without actually selling a single copy then why can't Zenimax?

That's sort of a strawman. Pay to win games are not the same thing. Do you really believe pay to win and subscriptions are the only doable model? Or is because you are being cheap and can't tolerate the developer getting proceeds from EVERY sale?

How are they not the same? Elder Scrolls online is also pay to win, except with an initial fee added for some reason. So if it's already pay to win how is different?

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/02/13/heres-whats-in-the-new-elder-scrolls-online-cash-shop

That doesn't sound very pay to win. Did you actually read the article? Potions (which are weaker than player crafted ones) and vanity items....