Qwark said:
Ka-pi96 said:
setsunatenshi said:
it's up to you brits to decide whether you wanna stay or leave.
i do think the way things are can't stay for long... so either we as europeans put nationalities aside and collectively opt to form a real federation or we might as well go back to the way things were way back when.
continuing to a federation solution would obviously mean the bigger economies would have to increase the solidarity to the weaker economies, much in the same way as the main bulk of the budget in a given country is generated in it's richer cities and then a part distributed to the least economically independent ones.
that's a pill that is hard to swallow for the electorate of the net contributors, but it's entirely up to them to balance out what they see as the more important goal.
isolation will have costs that probably outweigh the benefits that seem easier to comprehend for the more simpleton voter.
anyway, let's see what come of it. gl uk |
Yes please. IMO the sooner we become one giant European super nation the better 
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Europe is to diverse for thst to be honest, secondly swiss and norway wouldn't join. Neither would any country which doesn't have the Euro. Would you be glad to hand over the profit of the hard earned North Western economies to support the broke corrupted states even further. I don't want to see that happen since that would tore our continent appart even further. The EU must become more of what the EEC was a party for environmental care, economical colobration and control, controling migration and millitary defense nor shouldn't concern itself with every law made in each state it should lose it's big brother's attitude. The EU should set out a few clear lines to which countries need to obey to stay in the Union (rules about corruption, debt etc.).
It's also what UK wants these days 75% of your lws are delgated from EU policy's.
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Something like United Nations of Europe would take a long time. But i think it's not impossible. Not in the long term. That would have to mean that nations are willing to give up some things to a real european government though. Something i do not see right now.
Now, what can the EU right now give? Actually stability. That is something you can see in the other problem countries like Ireland, Spain, Italy...
They've had a really tough time and still have, but as for example Spains economy would likely have fallen apart if not in the EU.
Political weight. Let's face it. A single european state, even Germany, France or UK does not at all have the big political weight. EU could have that and basically already has it if decisions are made together instead against each other.
By the way, most german banks are stable. Deutsche Bank just wants to get rid of its not so profitable sectors like small private customers and it has to pay a penalty, though a huge one.
Your great british banking and finance sector shows another problem on the other hand. It's to big. one nice finance crash or the wrong bank collapsing and UK's economy, at least as long as it is alone, basically would fall apart.
